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On Jul 13, 2012, at 12:01 PM, nafex-request@lists.ibiblio.org wrote:

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>   1. Re:  Black currant question - transplanting cuttings (anton ptak)
>   2.  crows (Alan Haigh)
>   3.  how to shoot a crow (Richard MURPHY)
>   4. Re:  Crows!!! (Richard Moyer)
>   5.  galvanized nails (Monica Maggio)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:36:15 -0500
> From: anton ptak <antonptak@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [nafex] Black currant question - transplanting cuttings
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> miekal - i also have learned this lesson year (again) that i should pot 
> in individual containers, as the cuttings look plenty healthy at 
> transplanting time but then many don't make it once transplanted, 
> despite keeping them well watered.  i transplanted my black and red 
> currant cuttings about 2 months ago but had similar luck to what you 
> just described.  next year, i'll definitely be doing individual 
> containers, or prepare spots in the ground where i can lay out a row or 
> two for a year.
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> anton
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> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:36:30 -0500
> From: Alan Haigh <alandhaigh@gmail.com>
> Subject: [nafex] crows
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> Crows have an inconsistent relationship with fruit around here, sometimes
> showing great interest in ripe fruit and sometimes ignoring it- depending
> on general food supply, I guess.
> 
> If you can't shoot them you can exclude them with nets.  I prefer woven
> double strand pollypro. netting for the purpose although Farm Tek sells a
> very heavy mono-filament avium netting in large enough sizes to use for the
> purpose.   The thin monofilament is only practical if you use a frame which
> is too much work for me.  Crows are not as agile as smaller birds and I've
> found that netting loosely drooped over trees works for them around here.
> No telling about your crows though.
> 
> It's hard to fine the woven stuff in wide enough rolls, unfortunately, as
> the main market seems to be grape vineyards.  For free-standing trees you
> need a 30' width at least.  Takes a lot of time to sew pieces together but
> it is an alternative.
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:28:54 +0000
> From: Richard MURPHY <murphman108@msn.com>
> Subject: [nafex] how to shoot a crow
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> If you live in the boonies, use a 22 rifle with a scope.
> 
> If you have neighbors less than half a mile, use a shotgun....... no scope 
> needed!
> 
> 410 gauge, full choke, #6 shot
> 
> Wait until you spook one from a tree and shoot it as it flies away.
> Nobody wants shot pellets in the apples.
> 
> FYI
> A 410 is a smaller shotgun, but great for birds.
> Full choke means a relatively tight shot pattern.
> #6 shot is the pellet size of the BBs in the shell; 6 being excellent for 
> birds.
> This gun will not hurt to shoot. It's easy.
> A single-shot model, used.... around $100.
> 
> Murph                                           
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 14:35:44 -0400
> From: Richard Moyer <ramoyer@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [nafex] Crows!!!
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> Crows were destroying our Asian pears just before they ripened.  We hung a
> dead one over the edge of the orchard, from a high tree limb.  No more crow
> damage for two seasons over one acre of fruit, as long as that mummified
> crow hung.
> 
> BTW, after giving up trying to shoot crows (smart birds), I gathered one up
> as road kill.  Kids in car wondered aloud about me stopping for road kill,
> but we did get to eat a lot more Asian pears.
> 
> As for whether this would work for robins, don't know.  Do know that we
> shot a bluejay that was eating apples.  Hung it up in the tree being eaten
> the most (Williams Pride).  Bluejays came back as soon as I was in the
> house, eating apples with abandon right beside one of their band, freshly
> deceased.
> 
> Don't know what the above says about the scruples of crows vs. other birds,
> but our crows are observant and cautious.
> 
> Richard Moyer
> SW VA
> Where our drought has broken.
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 08:57:28 -0700
> From: Monica Maggio <arboretum@homeorchardsociety.org>
> Subject: [nafex] galvanized nails
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> Does anyone know if it is hazardous to use galvanized nails on fruit trees?
> They have been used for years to hang variety labels on our fruit trees in
> the Arboretum and it has recently come to my attention that the mix of
> metals commonly found in anything galvanized may in fact be toxic to the
> trees...
> 
> ...any thoughts or facts on the matter?
> 
> Thanks!
> Monica Maggio; manager
> Home Orchard Society Arboretum
> arboretum@homeorchardsociety.org
> www.homeorchardsociety.org
> 503-338-8479
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