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["Scott Weber and Muffy Barrett" <bluestem_farm@juno.com>]

Dan,I suspect that hardy (A. kolomicta) kiwi would work.  The problem that I 
have consistantly with the kiwis is that they break dormancy too early, and 
then frost damages the buds.  Growing under a tree might slow down bud break 
enough to let them grow--anyway, the next ones  I plant are going to be 
shaded, to see if they do any better.  You could possibly do alpine 
strawberries as a ground cover around the vines.  Theyseem not to need quite 
as much sun as the standard ones. Muffy BarrettSouthern Wisconsin

---------- Original Message ----------
I have a narrow garden area about 7 feet wide along the north side of my 
driveway which gets mid 
morning to mid/late afternoon sun in the spring and the fall but, because 
there is a tall maple tree 
that is overhanging the garden, doesn't get much direct sun in the middle of 
the summer.  I had 
wanted to plant fruiting trees or bushes there, but wondered what I could 
plant there because of the 
sunlight issue.  Also, it would be better if they were 5 to 8 or 10 feet tall 
or so because my wife 
will want to plant some shorter plants in the front and the garden slopes 
slightly down in the back 
(north). I did have some currant plants started there and they got some 
fruit, but they got kind of 
lost behind other competing plants and didn't seem to have all that much 
fruit or get as tall as 
some I planted last year in a different area.

Are there some plants that either fruit early or later in the year that could 
benefit from the 
spring and fall sun that should reach them when the sun is not directly 
overhead?  Would the early 
or late timing of fruiting help the ripening of fruit considering that they 
may get more direct sun 
early and late in the year?

This is for zone 4 in the Twin Cities area of Minnesota, probably zone 4b 
most of the time, but I 
have been going for plants that will take zone 4a at least.

I was thinking of Haskap, or perhaps even some Hardy Kiwi with a vertical 
arbor.  Maybe Aronia?

Any comments on these or any other suggestions?

Dan
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FWIW, I've had a Danube for ... a while (the invoice didn't come immediately 
to hand when I paged through the folder) that every winter is covered with 
beautiful big fat flower buds.  Every spring most of them fall off, but 
plenty come through to give me a god crop, if they set fruit.  But they 
hardly do set fruit.  I'm not sure that I've tasted more than a half dozen 
cherries off of it in the 6 or 8 years that I've been anticipating them, 
although some of that is the birds' fault.  I'm sorely tempted to cut mine 
down but so far I've continued giving it one more chance.  Perhaps this year, 
with the weird warm winter we've had........Muffy Barrett

---------- Original Message ----------
I would like to know if anyone else has had productivity problems with the 
MI Hungarians. Thanks. Its time for me to make a culling decision on them.

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Another early ripening "fruit" to include is rhubarb.  It is easily ready to 
harvest before Memorial Day here in northeast Colorado.

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I remembered reading that a zinc application just before leaf drop made 
flower buds more hardy, at
least for apricots.  Perhaps that goes as well for cherries.  I don't know if 
this was a spray or not.

<http://www.oakcreekorchard.com/id82.html>
"Dr. Craig Ledbetter, the USDA-ARS apricot breeder in Fresno, CA, believes 
that apricots have fairly
high zinc requirements and that a fall zinc application shortly before leaf 
drop apparently makes
the flower buds more hardy and better developed come spring."

Dan


On 2/25/2012 9:07 PM, Scott Weber and Muffy Barrett wrote:
> FWIW, I've had a Danube for ... a while (the invoice didn't come 
> immediately to hand when I paged through the folder) that every winter is 
> covered with beautiful big fat flower buds.  Every spring most of them fall 
> off, but plenty come through to give me a god crop, if they set fruit.  But 
> they hardly do set fruit.  I'm not sure that I've tasted more than a half 
> dozen cherries off of it in the 6 or 8 years that I've been anticipating 
> them, although some of that is the birds' fault.  I'm sorely tempted to cut 
> mine down but so far I've continued giving it one more chance.  Perhaps 
> this year, with the weird warm winter we've had........Muffy Barrett
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> I would like to know if anyone else has had productivity problems with the
> MI Hungarians. Thanks. Its time for me to make a culling decision on them.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
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