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From: "Dr. Chiranjit Parmar" <parmarch_mnd@dataone.in>
To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Japanese raisin-tree; nafex Digest, Vol 105, Issue 20
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 09:00:52 -0700

Diospyros lotus grows wild in my part of India and if you wish, I can try to get a few seeds for you. There is a chapter on this fruit, which we call amlook, in local dialect, in Fruitipedia at the following link. You may read it for furher information:

http://fruitipedia.com/amlook.htm

Please write me off the list if you seeds.

Dr. Chiranjit Parmar
186/3 Jail Road
Mandi HP 175001, India
01905-222810; 094181-81323
www.fruitipedia.com

-----Original Message----- From: Steven Covacci
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 12:22 PM
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Lester:

Do you have two trees, or just one? IF one, then I guess it's self-fertile. How large and old is your tree(s)?

Does anyone have an exceptional Diospyros lotus (date-plum) - comparatively speaking?

Steve; NJ

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1. Re: RAISIN TREE (6ducks@gmail.com)
2. Re: Blackberry in SWI (tanis cuff)
3. Re: RAISIN TREE (rob hamilton)
4. Fw: strange mulberry leaf. (William McNam)
5. Re: RAISIN TREE (lester davis)
6. Re: Fw: strange mulberry leaf. (Dr. Lucky Pittman)
7. Pomegranates, figs & olives - video needed (Lon J. Rombough)
8. Re: Fw: strange mulberry leaf. (Richard L. Wagner)
9. Re: Low(e?)ville apple and bananas (Lon J. Rombough)
10. Re: Low(e?)ville apple and bananas (Doreen Howard)

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 10:14:12 -0600
From: 6ducks@gmail.com <6ducks@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] RAISIN TREE
To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>, North
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Just landed, its bright and sunny here. Ttyl

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

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From: "lester davis" <lhdavis8@knology.net>
To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: [NAFEX] RAISIN TREE
Date: Wed, Oct 19, 2011 6:26 pm

Group,

The raisin tree in my back yard in Columbus, GA is not astrigent, but sweet
and slightly mealy. I do not try eat the stems until they mature and hit the
ground, the seeds are also mature. I don't think it will be too much shade for
the dogwood. My tree shades a fig which produces every year.

Lester H. Davis
zone 8B
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 16:51:52 +0000
From: tanis cuff <tanistanis@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Blackberry in SWI
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That's good advice Jim. But also the flower buds on most just aren't hardy. If
they spend the winter in snow drifts, we get more berries the next year.

Cold windy weather today. Hard to believe it was over 80 two weeks ago.

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From: jimfruth
To: nafex
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 09:22:25 -0500
Subject: [NAFEX] Blackberry in SWI

Tanis Cuff wrote, "sWI, plenty blackberry canes but not much fruit."

Blackberries tend to overcrowd themselves whereupon they stop producing
fruit. You need to do some thinning to get them to bear.

Jim Fruth
Brambleberry Fruit Farm
4002 Davis Street
Pequot Lakes, MN 56472
1-218-831-7018 (My Cell)

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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 10:23:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: rob hamilton <lostman_amiga@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] RAISIN TREE
To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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Lester,
have you ever tried propagating your tree?

?
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From: lester davis <lhdavis8@knology.net>
To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 6:26 PM
Subject: [NAFEX] RAISIN TREE

Group,

The raisin tree in my back yard in Columbus, GA is not astrigent, but sweet?
and slightly mealy.? I do not try eat? the stems until they mature and hit the
ground, the seeds are also mature.? I don't think? it will be too much shade for
the dogwood.? My tree shades a fig which produces every year.?

Lester H. Davis
zone 8B
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 10:44:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: William McNam <billmcnam@yahoo.com>
Subject: [NAFEX] Fw: strange mulberry leaf.
To: "nafex@lists.ibiblio.org" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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Has anyone tried grafting fig onto mulberry?
Perhaps they are graft compatible?

----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Dr. Lucky Pittman <lucky.pittman@murraystate.edu>
To: 'North American Fruit Explorers' <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 12:50:38 PM
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] strange mulberry leaf.

Yep.? Saw one just like it recently, growing in a backyard fence that
borders the parking lot at the high school my daughter attends.? I didn't
look at leaf/bud morphology, but figured it was M. alba.
Considered marking it an collecting a scion to graft next spring, just
because of the leaf morphology-looks amazingly like the Magnolia/Brunswick
group of figs.

Lucky

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Matt Demmon
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:10 AM
To: nafex list
Subject: [NAFEX] strange mulberry leaf.

I was wondering if any of you crazy fruit explorers have seen a mulberry
with a leaf like this. It looked like a Morus alba, but the sinus lobing is
way deeper than any I've seen, the lobes are very straight, and there's no
small teeth at all. I've seen 2 trees in the Ann Arbor area that looked like
this, both obviously self-seeded, one in a fencerow by a cemetary and one
behind a dumpster. Both were young and vigorous. I know mulberry leaves
change significantly with vigor/age, but I've never seen anything like this
on any of the mulberries I've seen.

Is it another variety or species?

-matt
z5 seMI

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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 12:51:48 -0500
From: "lester davis" <lhdavis8@knology.net>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] RAISIN TREE
To: "rob hamilton" <lostman_amiga@yahoo.com>, "North American Fruit
Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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Yes, from seeds, very easy to propagate.

Subject: Re: [NAFEX] RAISIN TREE

Lester,
have you ever tried propagating your tree?

-------------------------------------------- Now Zone 8a!! Atlanta, GA

Atlanta Fruits Club
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Atlanta_Fruits/
North American Fruit Explorers (NAFEX)
www.NAFEX.org
Southern Fruit Fellowship (SFF)
www.NAFEX.org/SFF
Southeastern Palm and Exotic Plant Society (SPEPS)
www.SPEPS.net
California Rare Fruit Growers
www.crfg.org

My New Blog!!
http://atlantafruitman.wordpress.com/

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From: lester davis <lhdavis8@knology.net>
To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 6:26 PM
Subject: [NAFEX] RAISIN TREE

Group,

The raisin tree in my back yard in Columbus, GA is not astrigent, but sweet
and slightly mealy. I do not try eat the stems until they mature and hit the
ground, the seeds are also mature. I don't think it will be too much shade
for the dogwood. My tree shades a fig which produces every year.

Lester H. Davis
zone 8B
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 12:58:03 -0500
From: "Dr. Lucky Pittman" <lucky.pittman@murraystate.edu>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Fw: strange mulberry leaf.
To: "'William McNam'" <billmcnam@yahoo.com>, "'North American Fruit
Explorers'" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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Never tried that combo.
Attempted Che(Cudrania)onto mulberry, with no success.

Lucky

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of William McNam
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 12:45 PM
To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: [NAFEX] Fw: strange mulberry leaf.

Has anyone tried grafting fig onto mulberry?
Perhaps they are graft compatible?

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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 12:09:25 -0700
From: "Lon J. Rombough" <lonrom@hevanet.com>
Subject: [NAFEX] Pomegranates, figs & olives - video needed
To: NAFEX Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Cc: CRFG E-List <CalRareFruit@yahoogroups.com>
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A missionary group http://www.sowim.org/eng/index.asp is making some special
Biblical videos and is seeking video footage of pomegranates, figs & olives. If
you can help contact me offlist.
_Lon Rombough
Grapes, writing, consulting, book, The Grape Grower, at http://www.bunchgrapes.com
Winner GWA "Best Talent in Writing" 2003.
Grape pruning video: http://www.bunchgrapes.com/dvd.html View a short, low
resolution clip here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q58zFY0B1M
A video about The Grape Grower : http://cookingupastory.com/index.php/2008/04/18/the-grape-grower/

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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 14:49:35 -0400
From: "Richard L. Wagner" <rewagner@centurytel.net>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Fw: strange mulberry leaf.
To: "William McNam" <billmcnam@yahoo.com>, "North American Fruit
Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <20111020144935.xqleynjlaqzo00wk@webmail2.centurytel.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format="flowed"

I have never seen a mulberry with a leaf like that but it definitely
resembles a Ficus afghanistanica I had a few years ago.

Quoting William McNam :

Has anyone tried grafting fig onto mulberry?
Perhaps they are graft compatible?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Dr. Lucky Pittman To: 'North American Fruit Explorers' Sent:
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 12:50:38 PM
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] strange mulberry leaf.

Yep. Saw one just like it recently, growing in a backyard fence that
borders the parking lot at the high school my daughter attends. I didn't
look at leaf/bud morphology, but figured it was M. alba.
Considered marking it an collecting a scion to graft next spring, just
because of the leaf morphology-looks amazingly like the Magnolia/Brunswick
group of figs.

Lucky

-----Original Message-----
From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Matt Demmon
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:10 AM
To: nafex list
Subject: [NAFEX] strange mulberry leaf.

I was wondering if any of you crazy fruit explorers have seen a mulberry
with a leaf like this. It looked like a Morus alba, but the sinus lobing is
way deeper than any I've seen, the lobes are very straight, and there's no
small teeth at all. I've seen 2 trees in the Ann Arbor area that looked like
this, both obviously self-seeded, one in a fencerow by a cemetary and one
behind a dumpster. Both were young and vigorous. I know mulberry leaves
change significantly with vigor/age, but I've never seen anything like this
on any of the mulberries I've seen.

Is it another variety or species?

-matt
z5 seMI

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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 14:48:51 -0700
From: "Lon J. Rombough" <lonrom@hevanet.com>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Low(e?)ville apple and bananas
To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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A search shows both Raji Puri and Raja Puri; Any notion as to which it should
be? The description of Raja Puri or Rajapuri fits what i have pretty well.
-Lon Rombough
Grapes, writing, consulting, book, The Grape Grower, at http://www.bunchgrapes.com
Winner GWA "Best Talent in Writing" 2003.
Grape pruning video: http://www.bunchgrapes.com/dvd.html View a short, low
resolution clip here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q58zFY0B1M
A video about The Grape Grower : http://cookingupastory.com/index.php/2008/04/18/the-grape-grower/

On Oct 19, 2011, at 1:51 PM, Doreen Howard wrote:

Yes Lon, the banana I sent is Raji Puri. I love the taste. Wish I could
grow it here in the frigid north. I struggle with figs, that's about the
only warm-climate fruit I can grow. Have my Petite Negra in the house, as
of today, to finish ripening fruit.
Doreen Howard

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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 19:25:44 -0500
From: "Doreen Howard" <gardendiva@charter.net>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Low(e?)ville apple and bananas
To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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The banana plant I bought and planted when living on the Gulf Coast of Texas
is Raji Puri, fairly common in the area.
Doreen Howard

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Re: [NAFEX] Japanese raisin-tree; nafex Digest, Vol 105, Issue 20, Steven Covacci, 10/29/2011
- Re: [NAFEX] Japanese raisin-tree; nafex Digest, Vol 105, Issue 20, Dr. Chiranjit Parmar, 10/29/2011