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[John S <swim_at_svc@yahoo.com>]

Your regular goumi fruit sounds undersized.  Pictures to access would be 
helpful, showing the ripe fruit, the seed, the leaves, and one of the branch 
shape (the whole tree shape would be nice but unavailable)

Since you grafted this to a "goumi", then it is likely you have an Elaeagnus 
of some sort.  However, if I were to make a bet, I'd bet that what you 
grafted is actually a quality goumi to another inferior goumi (initially from 
a seedling).  Your description of the graft's fruit sounds closer to a 
quality goumi that what you described as the graft root stock plant.  I am 
puzzled by the mention of brown on the underside of the leaves.

There are other edible varieties of Elaeagnus as well, but I have not heard 
of them being as high quality as the one you describe.  It may be worthwhile 
propagating and I too would like to find out what it is.  Perhaps some of the 
experts here can help?

Apparently someone sold a batch of Autumn Olive seeds to some growers in the 
PNW as Goumi seeds.  These growers have been selling the resulting plants 
incorrectly (and inadvertently) as Goumi.  Hopefully that has been 
straightened out by now.  However, your "Goumi" is fruiting at the correct 
time for Goumi, so I do not think that is an issue here, but I would ask why 
your Goumi fruit (original tree) is so small.

Save the seeds.  There are likely those here, including myself, that would 
like to give them a try, pending an ID.

John



--- On Mon, 5/30/11, Matt Demmon <mdemmon@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Matt Demmon <mdemmon@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] unknown fruit like big goumi
To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Monday, May 30, 2011, 7:49 PM

I don't know but I want one! It actually sounds close to my goumi in a good
year. I've got a named variety, and they are usually about an inch long and
half an inch wide, and tasty. But the leaves aren't that big. A little
bigger than autumn olive.

-matt
z5 se MI

On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Idell Weydemeyer 
<iwgarden@earthlink.net>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Maybe someone can tell me what this fruit is---
>
> It is  like a large goumi-- This fruit is 1.25 inches long (my regular
> goumi
> is 3/8" long), about 3/4+ inch wide, a medium orange color and sweetish
> without the slightly astringent aftertaste of goumis.  it is ripe now, the
> same time as my goumis. The seed is about 3/4 inch long with fluted sides.
> The leaves are about 4 times larger than the regular goumi, soft, and have
> very little brown on the underside..
>
> I grafted this  on one of my two goumis several years ago, forgot it, move
> my one remaining goumi (when the other goumi died) and nearly cut this
> branch off since it was in the path. The person I got it from gave me a
> name
> but the description does not fit at all.
> So what is this good fruit????
>
> Idell
>
>
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