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[Matt Demmon <mdemmon@gmail.com>]

Thanks Bob! Nice to hear from an expert. It sure is fun to experiment,
and thanks for all your work at making the original crosses. I look
forward to being able to buy your releases in the future in the USA. I
know St. Lawrence has them, but the ones I got were pretty puny and
didn't do well.

-matt
z5 SE MI

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Bob Bors <bob.bors@usask.ca> wrote:
> Because Carmine jewel is a hybrid between an improved Mongolian (lousy
> flavour and a bush) and a sour cherry tree variety (Northstar, good flavor
> but a small tree) you are likely to get wide variation in the seedlings.
> You could get all sort of combinations due to recombination of genes. Based
> on our own selfed seedlings I'd guess that 75% will be of acceptable fruit
> quality but there can be wide differences in plant size and productivity.
>
>
>
> Dr. Bob Bors
> Assistant Professor
> Head of the Fruit Program
> University of Saskatchewan, Plant Sciences Dept.
> 51 Campus Drive, Room 2C02
> Saskatoon Saskatchewan, S7N 5A8
>
> Fruit program website:
> http://www.fruit.usask.ca
> Phone 306-966-8583, Fax 306-966-5015
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> [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Matt Demmon
> Sent: April-05-10 8:49 AM
> To: North American Fruit Explorers
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Carmine jewel seeds
>
> Hi Scott! I'm near Whitmore Lake, or more specifically, 6 miles north
> of Ann Arbor in Northfield Township.
>
> Well, so far, the cherry seedlings are only about 4 inches high. I
> just germinated them this spring, so I don't know what they're going
> to turn out like. I am interested in the amount of variation in the
> leaf shape so far, which is high, from rounded to longer with a
> distinct point, and teeth from finer and sharper to coarser and more
> rounded.
>
> I got the seeds from Sarah Ewing, on the list. Thanks Sarah! And for
> the honeyberry seeds as well.
>
> Thanks Melissa for the correction, my bad on the interspecific mistake
> due to typing faster than I can think.
>
> As for what I hope to get out of them, I would think I will get
> something similar to the parents. My understanding is that these have
> been bred for a few generations, and while not exactly stable, I would
> at least expect to get decently sized and tasting fruit on a more or
> less small tree/bush, with some variation in all the characters. I
> hope I don't get a big tree with awful tasting fruit.
>
> Hope to report more in future years!
>
> On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 8:13 PM, S & E Hills <ehills7408@wowway.com> wrote:
>> Matt, where in SE michigan are ya?
>>
>> What did the carmine Jewell cherry seeds you grew grow into (and please
>> don't say cherry trees/bushes)?  Have they fruited for you?
>>
>> Lastly, where did you (and Ernest) get the seeds from?
>>
>> Scott Hills
>> Zone 6b michigan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
>> [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Matt Demmon
>> Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 9:39 AM
>> To: North American Fruit Explorers
>> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Carmine jewel seeds
>>
>> Ernest, mine germinated after 3-4 months of cold after moving to a 60
>> degree environment. Some were even germinating in the fridge, however
>> others took several weeks to a month to germinate after being moved to
>> warmth. Also, the germination rate was not high. Perhaps they are not
>> terribly fertile because of their origin as intergeneric hybrids. So
>> far I'd say I've got about 25% germ.
>>
>> I'd like to report that my honeyberry seeds are now germinating en
>> masse. hundreds of them, germinating after about 3 months cold, 1
>> month warm. I'm curious to experiment with fresh seed.
>>
>> -matt
>> z5 se MI
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Ernest Plutko <ernestplutko@wiktel.com>
>> wrote:
>>> I'm having trouble germinating Carmine jewel seeds.  They don't want
>>> to germinate after four months cold stratification.   Some rotted but
>>> I think they were damaged when I got them.   Help, what to do?
>>>
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-matt demmon