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  • From: Martha Davis <martha_davis@earthlink.net>
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  • Subject: [NAFEX] pawpaw shading
  • Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 18:09:24 -0700


From: Richard Harrison <rharrison922@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] pawpaw shading
To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 7:40 PM

At 220' of elevation in NW FL I never tried to shade my pawpaws. They grow fine. They get some morning shade where they are, though--from pecan trees. They are bearing now.
                                                                        Richard

--- On Wed, 2/3/10, Jwlehman@aol.com <Jwlehman@aol.com> wrote:

From: Jwlehman@aol.com <Jwlehman@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] pawpaw shading
To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 1:45 PM

In a message dated 2/3/2010 1:23:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, orders@cuttsreviews.com writes:

Here
in NM at 5 to 7 thousand feet, I have encased them in multiple layers of
shade cloth so that they are nearly in the dark and am leaving them that
way for several years,


Hello Jay,

What has worked well for me are 2 foot tree shelters.  I've used more than one kind and they all work.  It is my experience that once they are tall enough to come out of the top of the 2 foot shelter the direct sunlight doesn't hurt them even if it is the first year.  But I'm only 600 feet of elevation you are over 5000 feet consequently nearer the sun, less filtration by the air of UV.  I would think open shade would be sufficient protection and you wouldn't need to have them nearly in the dark.

Jerry

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Richard Harrison <rharrison922@yahoo.com>
To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 06:33:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] pawpaw shading
Jerry,
    I think I started these from small seedlings from a TN nursery---if I recall correctly. We gave away seeds this year, but I don't think that I have ever planted seeds myself.
                                                                              Richard

--- On Wed, 2/3/10, Jwlehman@aol.com <Jwlehman@aol.com> wrote:

From: Jwlehman@aol.com <Jwlehman@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] pawpaw shading
To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 10:40 PM

In a message dated 2/3/2010 7:41:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, rharrison922@yahoo.com writes:

At 220' of elevation in NW FL I never tried to shade my pawpaws. They grow fine. They get some morning shade where they are, though--from pecan trees. They are bearing now
.

Richard, did you start them from seed?  Mortality rate of persimmon started from seed in full sun is very low.
Jerry


Jerry are you talking persimmon pawpaw or both? 

I have had problems in the Chicago suburbs with transplanted 6-12 inch pawpaws without shading.  Nursery stock still in pots reacted to UV within half an hour.  The tree shelters seemed to cook them in full sun. The north side of a fence worked well with a tree shelter.  4-6 foot size transplants that were bare root seemed to be fine without any shading.  It is possible that smaller plants need to have much more care hardening off than any other plant  I have run across, seedling pawpaws left in place seemed OK.   In New Mexico at high elevation I would be very careful with small transplants.

Martha



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