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["Fonzie Allbritton" <allbrif@charter.net>]

Burnt Ridge Nursery, Inc www.burntridgenursery.com offers some Asian 
persimmons that will take zone 5 temperatures.
Fonzie
Zone 6

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Melissa Kacalanos" <mijwiz@yahoo.com>
To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] persimmons


> I'm considering planting an American persimmon tree. I don't have a lot of 
> room, so I probably have room for only one of these big trees. Is it true 
> that 'Yates' sets fruit without pollination, and they're seedless? It 
> sounds too good to be true, so I'm checking with y'all. Are these seedless 
> fruit as numerous, big and tasty as seedy pollinated ones would be?
>
> Oh, and someone asked about blue persimmons a little while ago. I notice 
> that they're for sale here:
> http://www.nolinnursery.com/Persimon.htm
> although I've heard that they don't taste as good as the orange ones. They 
> do look interesting, though. Here's a picture, plus info:
> http://www.simmonfruit.net/persimmon_improvement.html
>
> But now a persimmon growing question: The only place in my yard big enough 
> for a big tree like that is just to the west of a huge sugar maple. 
> Anything I plant there would get sun only after noon, unless it somehow 
> grows really tall really fast and shades the maple. Would a persimmon do 
> OK with competition like that?
>
> Melissa
> zone 5 central NY
> Eating frozen strawberries, and looking at the snow.
>
> --- On Sat, 1/9/10, Lee Reich <lreich@hvc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Lee Reich <lreich@hvc.rr.com>
> > Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Tall persimmons
> > To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 9:09 AM
> > I've grown American persimmon
> > cultivars here in Zone 5 in the Hudson Valley for about 20
> > years and almost always harvest nice crops. I recommend
> > Szukis as the best for flavor and hardiness, and just about
> > as good are Mohler, Dooley, and Yates. Meader never tastes
> > that good to me, Pieper never ripened, and Prok just barely
> > ripens but remains somewhat astringent and bland.
> >  Lee Reich,
> > PhDhttp://www.leereich.com/http://leereich.com/blog.html.
> > Books by Lee Reich:A
> > Northeast Gardener's YearThe Pruning
> > BookWeedless
> > GardeningUncommon Fruits for Every
> > GardenLandscaping with
> > Fruit
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jan 8, 2010, at 3:15 PM, Melissa Kacalanos
> > wrote:
> > I probably just need someone to talk me out
> > of this, but y'all got me thinking about persimmons
> > again. Is it possible to grow them in zone 5a, upstate NY? I
> > know the American species is hardy to this zone, but do the
> > fruit have enough heat and time to mature here? How about
> > this Rosseyanka hybrid?
> >
> > I saw a kaki tree in Switzerland in December that looked
> > ridiculous, it had so many gaudy orange fruit on it. It made
> > me think that a persimmon might be worth planting just as an
> > ornamental.
> >
> > Melissa
> > Enjoying the smell of candying citrus peel on the stove,
> > and looking out at the snow.