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  • From: "Fonzie Allbritton" <allbrif@charter.net>
  • To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] persimmons
  • Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 17:34:28 -0500

Burnt Ridge Nursery, Inc www.burntridgenursery.com offers some Asian persimmons that will take zone 5 temperatures.
Fonzie
Zone 6

----- Original Message ----- From: "Melissa Kacalanos" <mijwiz@yahoo.com>
To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] persimmons


I'm considering planting an American persimmon tree. I don't have a lot of room, so I probably have room for only one of these big trees. Is it true that 'Yates' sets fruit without pollination, and they're seedless? It sounds too good to be true, so I'm checking with y'all. Are these seedless fruit as numerous, big and tasty as seedy pollinated ones would be?

Oh, and someone asked about blue persimmons a little while ago. I notice that they're for sale here:
http://www.nolinnursery.com/Persimon.htm
although I've heard that they don't taste as good as the orange ones. They do look interesting, though. Here's a picture, plus info:
http://www.simmonfruit.net/persimmon_improvement.html

But now a persimmon growing question: The only place in my yard big enough for a big tree like that is just to the west of a huge sugar maple. Anything I plant there would get sun only after noon, unless it somehow grows really tall really fast and shades the maple. Would a persimmon do OK with competition like that?

Melissa
zone 5 central NY
Eating frozen strawberries, and looking at the snow.

--- On Sat, 1/9/10, Lee Reich <lreich@hvc.rr.com> wrote:

From: Lee Reich <lreich@hvc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Tall persimmons
To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 9:09 AM
I've grown American persimmon
cultivars here in Zone 5 in the Hudson Valley for about 20
years and almost always harvest nice crops. I recommend
Szukis as the best for flavor and hardiness, and just about
as good are Mohler, Dooley, and Yates. Meader never tastes
that good to me, Pieper never ripened, and Prok just barely
ripens but remains somewhat astringent and bland.
Lee Reich,
PhDhttp://www.leereich.com/http://leereich.com/blog.html.
Books by Lee Reich:A
Northeast Gardener's YearThe Pruning
BookWeedless
GardeningUncommon Fruits for Every
GardenLandscaping with
Fruit




On Jan 8, 2010, at 3:15 PM, Melissa Kacalanos
wrote:
I probably just need someone to talk me out
of this, but y'all got me thinking about persimmons
again. Is it possible to grow them in zone 5a, upstate NY? I
know the American species is hardy to this zone, but do the
fruit have enough heat and time to mature here? How about
this Rosseyanka hybrid?

I saw a kaki tree in Switzerland in December that looked
ridiculous, it had so many gaudy orange fruit on it. It made
me think that a persimmon might be worth planting just as an
ornamental.

Melissa
Enjoying the smell of candying citrus peel on the stove,
and looking out at the snow.










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