USDA Zones 3-8 Lee Reich, PhD
Books by Lee Reich: A Northeast Gardener's Year The Pruning Book Weedless Gardening Uncommon Fruits for Every Garden Landscaping with Fruit On Aug 20, 2009, at 4:07 PM, Richard Harrison wrote: What zones is it adapted for?
From: Lee Reich <lreich@hvc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Prunus maritima exceptionally hardy, tasty, and late-flowering
To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 2:35 PM
In Uncommon Fruits for Every Garden there is an extensive list of varieties and their descriptions, including those Lon mentions. As far as I know, none, except Jersey, is still available (from Raintree Nursery). Many years ago, I tasted some excellent selections that were good fresh at Rutgers University Cream Ridge Experiment Station.I've grown some of them, and other beach plums, but have become somewhat disenchanted with their variable production and sometimes susceptibility to pests. They always put on a most beautiful floral show in spring, though. Lee Reich, PhD
Books by Lee Reich: A Northeast Gardener's Year The Pruning Book Weedless Gardening Uncommon Fruits for Every Garden Landscaping with Fruit On Aug 10, 2009, at 7:34 PM, Lon J. Rombough wrote: Ken Turkington in Mass. corresponded with me about a collection of P. maritima he was working with/rescuing some years ago for a conservatory. He sent me fruit samples to evaluate and somewhere I have paper notes about them. Most are blue, but some were red or yellow. Most were less than an inch in diameter and with high astringency. I have some Prunus spinosa (sloe plum) with very similar fruit.
According to The Register of New Fruit and Nut Varieties, Russell B. Stearns of Edgarton, MA found and named "Autumn", "Makonikey", "Northneck", and "Stearns in the 1940's and 1950s. J.M. Batchelor named "Eastham" "Hancock" and "Safford" and Wilfred Wheeler found and released "Cotuit", and "Wheeler 6.".
On it's own roots maritima seems to be able to survive in beach sand with very high water tables. I had some grafted on St. Julian rootstock that made a large bush, though it never produced fruit because it wasn't self-fertile and it bloomed long after anything that might have served as a pollinator.
Luther Burbank indicated he used P. maritima in his breeding and was supposed to have bred a plum that bloomed and fruited continuously into midsummer. I looked for it for years but was never able to find it.
-Lon Rombough
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On Jul 9, 2009, at 4:39 PM, billmcnam@yahoo.com wrote:
Prunus maritima exceptionally hardy,tasty,and late-flowering
The late-flowering trait of this species holds potential for delaying flowering in other prunus species through interspecific hybridization.
Is anyone aware of the existence of any such hybrids (e.g. peach X prunus maritima)
The peach pollen would have to be collected and stored untill the beach plum flowers, or the plum would need to be potted and brought into a heated greenhouse to induce early flowering
Are there named selections of this species that have been selected for exceptional fruit size and/or fruit quality?
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[NAFEX] My Beach Plums (and best jams/jellies)
Tuesday, July 7, 2009 1:45 PM
From: "Jim Fruth" jimfruth@charter.net
To: "NAFEX" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
I got my (25) Beach Plum bushes from the New Hampshire Department of
Conservation several years ago. One got beat up during a mild Winter and
then I had 24. Most were still alive (barely) after last Winter's -38.
Only two had live growth above the snow-line. None of them have ever
suckered. The two remaining are about 30" high and are wider in diameter
than they are high. This isn't the first year they bloomed but it is the
first year that any have set fruit.
I bought the original 25 because visitors (tourists) from New England
asked for the jelly assuming that, of our 30+ varieties, we must have their
favorite. They added that if they had visited a shop in Martha's Vineyard,
for example, if that shop didn't have Beach Plum jelly, they would leave and
go to the next shop - supposedly(?) it is that good/tasty!
I'll just keep the plants as a novelty. Plum jam/jelly is among our
least sold/poorest sellers. Our best sellers are Strawberry Jalapeno
(and/or raspberry Jalapeno and/or Blueberry Jalapeno), Chokecherry, and
Brambleberry (a mixture of red raspberry and black raspberry that tastes
better than either of the two separately).
Jim Fruth
Brambleberry Farm
Pequot Lakes, MN 56472
For jams, jellies, syrups and more:
www.jellygal.com
1-877-265-6856 (Toll Free)
1-218-831-7018 (My Cell)
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--- On Mon, 7/6/09, Lon J. Rombough <lonrom@hevanet.com> wrote:
From: Lon J. Rombough <lonrom@hevanet.com>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Beach Plum questions
To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 2:23 PM
I had a beach plum on St. Julian rootstock for many years, so the species can be grafted to avoid the suckering problem. Mine was about six feet tall, more like a big bush than a tree. I only had one, and it bloomed so late nothing was left in bloom to pollinate it, so I never got fruit.
-Lon Rombough
On Jul 6, 2009, at 6:36 AM, mIEKAL aND wrote:
I've never lost any Beach plums to winter kill, but don't think it has
gotten below -35 here in the last 10 years. They do sucker & form a
thicket very quickly so work great for wild plantings, for more formal
orchard spacing the suckers would have to be kept up with. Also a
large percentage of the fruit becomes mummified before becoming ripe,
probably because I do have mine in a thicket & the air circulation is
not good. Fruit extremely astringent.
~mIEKAL
What are the best plums for putting up wine in a northern climate?
On Jul 6, 2009, at 7:46 AM, Jim Fruth wrote:
> As I mentioned in an earlier post, my Winter received over an
> inch of
> rain added to the snow so the snow pack had little insulative
> properties.
> I had 24 Beach Plum bushes and two of them proved to be hardier
> than the others. These two bloomed producing fruit.
>
> Question No. 1: There are no crescent shaped marks on the plums; do
> Curcullios not like Beach Plum?
>
> Question No. 2: If all continues as is, I could get a handful of
> plums.
> Hopefully it is not too early to ask; does anyone want seed from
> bushes that
> thrive after -38 F.
>
> Jim Fruth
> Brambleberry Farm
> Pequot Lakes, MN 56472
> For jams, jellies, syrups and more:
> www.jellygal.com
> 1-877-265-6856 (Toll Free)
> 1-218-831-7018 (My Cell)
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