I should ask around.... maybe it was frost.
Thanks
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For what it's worth, it could be
something as simple as frost. We had a severe frost in our area
mid-May, and that did in a lot of apple crops. Didn't seem to affect
the pears, though. Jacquelyn A. Kuehn Musician, writer http://www.pennsacreskitchen.net www.wmugradio.org 11 AM-12:30 PM M-F
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(sourness) (Lon J. Rombough) > 2. No apples this year
(Richard MURPHY) > 3. Bill's thoughful commentary
(fuwa fuwa usagi) > 4. Re: Carbaryl/Sevin
[SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] (Steve) > 5. Re: Fruit trees under
powerlines (William C. Garthright) > 6. Re: No apples
this year (William C. Garthright) > 7. How to revive
my apple tree (if possible) (Caren Kirk) > 8. Re:
chemical vs organic (Kevin Moore) > > >
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Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 19:49:11 -0700 > From: "Lon J.
Rombough" <lonrom@hevanet.com> > Subject:
Re: [NAFEX] Honeyberry sweetness (sourness) > To: North American Fruit
Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> >
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > In this area,
honeyberries (the Russian edible honeysuckle) blooms in > early to mid
February. Haskap blooms as much as two months later. > -Lon
Rombough > NEW grape pruning video: http://www.bunchgrapes.com/dvd.html
View a > short, low resolution clip here: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q58zFY0B1M >
Grapes, writing, consulting, my book, The Grape Grower, at > http://www.bunchgrapes.com Winner
of the Garden Writers Association > "Best Talent in Writing" award for
2003. > A video about The Grape Grower : > http://cookingupastory.com/index.php/2008/04/18/the-grape-grower/ >
On Jun 14, 2009, at 6:25 PM, William C. Garthright
wrote: > > >> As to ripening, Haskap ripens about with
the earliest strawberries, >> sometimes a bit earlier. They bloom
later, yes, but it's warmer when >> they do bloom which seems to
speed development. > > > Oh, heck, that would be great,
then. I don't know when the earliest > strawberries ripen, but mine
start bearing in late May, and they're > easily the first fruit I get
(besides rhubarb, if you consider that a > "fruit"). > > But
if they bloom "months after" honeyberries, and still ripen by May, >
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14 Jun 2009 20:46:05 -0700 > From: "Richard MURPHY" <murphman108@msn.com> > Subject:
[NAFEX] No apples this year > To: "nafex" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> >
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Holy
Moly; > > Something went BAD
WRONG................. > > Most of my apple trees have dropped
their fruiting stems / future > apples ! > > They
fall off when I touch them. I'm sure this is due to a WRONG SPRAY
> I DID. > Weather has been almost all rain this
year... > > Permethrin, right after petal fall, along with Lime
Sulfur and mixed > with a little soap for
surfactant. > > Then I saw, 'Don't use after petal fall' on
Permethrin labels. Oh > no.... I thought Sevin was the only
thinner. > So who was it; the LS, Perm, or Soap ?? All the leaves are
fine and > growing strong. (I also did Round Up, in the rows of
trees. 2% mix of > 41% Glyph.) > > When I look this
subject up, on the internet, there is never a > CONCRETE REASON
backed up with TEST DATA to support this statement. I > hear
'un-clear' stories of mites... any connection? It looks too >
well-behaved / homogenous to be a BUG deal... is it? > > DO ANY OF
YOU KNOW FOR SURE WHY PERMETHRIN IS BAD AFTER PETAL FALL >
????? > > Me and my one apple per tree, thank you! I could hang
myself... > > Every other crop is fine... Samdal Elderberries in
zone 4 DIE BACK to > the Ground annualy. Don't do
it. > > Sambucus Canadensis, York and Nova kick ass. I'm bringing
the Samdals > down to Mass. to see if they grow. > >
So, diversity of crops is very important, in case you massacre one,
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Subject: [NAFEX] Bill's thoughful commentary > To: <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> >
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Bill
writes: > > Very interesting. But aren't you missing something?
These things would > happen anyway. At least, I assume that you're not
buying a newspaper > only to use as mulch? And your neighbors are going
to do what they do, > whether you use the leaves or not. These really
ARE free inputs, unless > you're driving to the neighbors to pick up the
leaves. > > > My reply: > > You must not have a
liberal tree hugging BBQ circuit in your area. > The
SouthPark episode on smug illustrates it well - LOL! > >
Essentially to join this clique you must berate everyone who is not as
> concerned as you with the environment and claim that if only
everyone > did as you did global warming would be solved, famine
would be > eliminate, your breath would be mintier and the grass
hoppers would > chirp Kumbaya; of course this proposition ignores
the fact that it is > unsustainable. In my area, a city of
160K the free wood chips are > gone in in March...and to the best
of my knowledge there are only 125 > or so serious gardeners in
the area, and only 18 that I am aware of > have gardens large
enough you can can something off of. > > My point is if everyone
attempted to garden as they or I do there > would simply not be
enough resources available. Now that does not > concern me,
what concerns me is the attitude and the divorcement from >
reality. > > Understand my example was only my strawberry
beds. The truth is I use > around 90 bags of chopped leaves
a year plus all the compost I > manufacture myself, and I burn
weeds to salvage what I can from them. > Not mention the
amount of wood I scavenge to burn. > > tfb > >
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15 Jun 2009 00:11:00 -0400 > From: Steve <sdw12986@aol.com> > Subject: Re:
[NAFEX] Carbaryl/Sevin [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] > To: North American Fruit
Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> >
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format=flowed > > > > ADAMSON, Karl wrote: >>
Hi Ya, >> I've killed young rootstocks by spraying them with
Carbaryl. If the >> tree is already stressed, you may end up
worse off. >> I've no experience with partial sprays and their
effect. >> >> Karl > > In that case, maybe it's
just as well that it rained, unexpectedly, > right after I sprayed it. I
think I'll give it up now, since it's > getting late in the season
anyway. I'll see what drops and thin by hand > later in the
season. > > Steve > > >
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15 Jun 2009 08:14:52 -0500 > From: "William C. Garthright" <billg@inebraska.com> > Subject:
Re: [NAFEX] Fruit trees under powerlines > To: North American Fruit
Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> >
Message-ID: <4A36494C.1070606@inebraska.com
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format=flowed > > >> Next to the orchard is a field
alternately planted in soybeans and >> corn. I've never been able to
see an increase in height under the >> lines. I don't have access to
harvest records therefore have no idea >> about production increase
or decrease under the lines. > > > That's why I've always
questioned this claim, too. Here in Nebraska, > transmission lines cross
and border crop fields all over the place, but > I've never noticed any
difference in the nearby plants. I don't know if > it's been
scientifically studied, but there's no obvious difference, > that I
could ever see. > > And farmers tend to be very unhappy about new
transmission lines > crossing their land. If it actually boosted yields,
you'd think they'd > welcome them (certainly along the edges of their
fields). Well, there > are other considerations, too, no
doubt. > > Bill > Lincoln, NE (zone 5) > > --
> A study by researchers at the University of Utah proves what
many > people > have long suspected: Everyone talking on a
cell phone, except you, is a > moron. - Dave
Barry > > > ------------------------------ > >
Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 08:33:20 -0500 > From:
"William C. Garthright" <billg@inebraska.com> > Subject:
Re: [NAFEX] No apples this year > To: North American Fruit Explorers
<nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> >
Message-ID: <4A364DA0.7070002@inebraska.com
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1;
format=flowed > > >> Something went BAD
WRONG................. >> >> Most of my apple trees have
dropped their fruiting stems / future >> apples
! > > > Sorry to hear that, Murph. And it's particularly
scary for me, because > I've got so many different kinds of fruit trees
crowded together that > it's hard to avoid drift when I'm spraying (and
there are very few > pesticides or fungicides rated for everything, it
seems). > > I've got some permethrin (Bonide Borer-Miner Killer),
but I don't > believe I've actually used it. Well, I have such a hard
time finding > pesticides I can use, I tend to collect as big a variety
as possible. > Yes, I see that it shouldn't be used on apples "after
petal fall" (but > you certainly wouldn't use it during bloom, would
you?). But oddly > enough, it's rated for pears in the
summer. > > Not for apricots or plums, though, so it would be very
hard for me to > spray this on *anything* without getting it on apples,
plums, apricots, > or pluots. > > Anyway, thanks for the
warning! I'm sorry to hear about your > experience, > but
you might have saved some of the rest of us from making that >
mistake. > > Bill > Lincoln, NE (zone 5) > > --
> Diplomacy is the art of saying "Nice doggie" until you can find a
rock. > - Will Rogers > > >
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15 Jun 2009 09:40:46 -0400 > From: Caren Kirk <quirky@videotron.ca> > Subject:
[NAFEX] How to revive my apple tree (if possible) > To: North American
Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> >
Message-ID: <C60521A8E1794315B8CEE04B9AD9CCE5@Wanderer> >
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > In a previous
post I lamented at the state of my golden russet apple > and
reliance peach that I planted last year that did not leaf out.
> Well, I think the peach has really had it, seems brittle and
can't > find any green under the bark. Probably should just
get the > inevitable over and done with and remove it and plant
something else. > RIP. > > However the apple, while
having no leaves is still supple and if you > scratch away the
bark, it's green underneath. Does this mean that > there is
still hope? If so what can I do to regenerate it? > > Any
suggestions welcome. > > Caren > Slightly depressed in
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15 Jun 2009 07:47:39 -0700 (PDT) > From: Kevin Moore <aleguy33@yahoo.com> > Subject:
Re: [NAFEX] chemical vs organic > To: North American Fruit Explorers
<nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> >
Message-ID: <748094.8165.qm@web46016.mail.sp1.yahoo.com
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Rock Phosphate
should do as well as bone meal. I can't speak to the > cost. If
you have healthy humusy soil, you shouldn't need to apply it >
more than every three to five years at the
most. > > > > >
________________________________ > From: Richard Harrison <rharrison922@yahoo.com> >
To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> >
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 4:34:36 PM > Subject: Re: [NAFEX] chemical
vs organic > > > Stephen, > Do
you buy bone meal or use something
else? >
Richard Harrison, NW FL > > --- On Fri, 6/12/09, Stephen Sadler
<Docshiva@Docshiva.org>
wrote: > > > From: Stephen Sadler <Docshiva@Docshiva.org> >
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] chemical vs organic > To: "'North American Fruit
Explorers'" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> >
Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 4:30 PM > > > > I agree
about Donna?s letter!! > > Potatoes really do love that cottonseed
meal. I can get organic, but > it?s very hard to find
elsewhere. Since you?re not certified, why not > use
it? I?m comfortable with it vs. conventional chemicals. I?m
not > certified either, but I?ve heard it mentioned that I might
be > certifiable? > > ~ Stephen > >
From:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org >
[mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Richard Harrison >
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 10:38 AM > To: North American Fruit
Explorers > Subject: Re: [NAFEX] chemical vs organic > >
Donna, > Thank you for this amazing
article ! I thoroughly enjoyed it! I > chuckled through most of
it---mainly because it is SO true. You should > be a journalist
somewhere--telling it like it is! > I
think the first chuckle was when you said that Sevin is >
considered one of the 4 major food groups. I rolled on that one!
> There's SO much truth to that. I live in NW FL and understand
> you--loud and clear. > As for the
gulf between organic enthusiasts and chemical ones, > there's an
old saying that MAY have some application here--when you > think
about it long enough. The saying is "if you don't stand for >
something, you'll fall for anything". Many people can be VERY >
opinionated. I know, I'm one of them! > I
have lived on the chemical side for most of my life--of 57 >
years. Last year I tried some cotttonseed meal on my sugarcane and
> decide to increase the rate to double. THIS YEAR it was affordable
to > buy versus chemical. Then I decided to try some cottonseed
meal on my > Irish potatoes--knowing that potatoes like a lot of
Phosphorus, rather > than Nitrogen(which the cottonseed meal is
high in). Well we got some > drenching rains! The potatoes
with chemical fertilizer has been dead > and harvested for 2 1/2
weeks and it is just getting to be harvest > time on the potatoes
with cottonseed meal. The plants stayed green > over 2 1/2 weeks
longer! The potatoes have better color(in the > ground)
too, than the chemically fertilized
ones. > So now, I'm gung-ho to try more
cottonseed meal. I tell an > organic friend about mu results and
advise her on where she can > purchase cottonseed meal and guess
what response I get? "Cottonseed > meal ISN'T
ORGANIC!" I thought to myself, "that's crazy!" But she
> explains, "the cottonseed is probably BIOENGINEERED--( a no-no)
and > the cotton was probably sprayed with Roundup and
pesticides! The meal > is
CONTAMINATED. > Probably needless to say,
I will NEVER be an organic gardener. > It's next to impossible to
be an organic gardener---or certified > organic these days,
certainly not on a commercial scale. I had thought > that I might
try growing organic vegetables this Fall and sell them at > the
Farmers Market, but no, I can't even call them organic without >
breaking a law now. They have to meet arbitrary legal standards now. I
> have to call them "naturally-grown" or
something. > So, I'm no longer hyped
up about organic gardening---again. IPM > sounds logical to me.
We have a county agent that this is a part of > his job title
"IPM Specialist". > But I guess we
have "different strokes for different folks" as > Sly said in his
song. > Personally, I look at food
like the scripture says, " every > creature(referring to meat
here---or food) of God is good, and nothing > to be refused, if
it be received with thanksgiving. For it is > sanctified by the
word of God and prayer." I try to pray over > everything
that I eat. I don't know(for sure) what's in the food that > I
eat(and literally noone does). But I know faith always
works. > Some folks have faith in
organic, some in chemical. Let's not > fight over which is right
or wrong. > Donna, keep up the
good writings. You brightened my day! > Richard Harrison, NW
FL > > --- On Fri, 6/12/09, Kieran &/or Donna <holycow@frontiernet.net>
wrote: > > From: Kieran &/or Donna <holycow@frontiernet.net> >
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] chemical vs organic > To: "North American Fruit
Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> >
Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 11:13 AM > ? > Someone, I think it
was Fluffy or maybe Alan who said organic people > are
"unscientific". That's not entirely true. Most of us are
simply > naive idealists who really believe that God or Nature is
benign and > nice. We have read that if we just improve our
soil enough, that the > bugs and disease will go away. That
generally seems to hold true for > truck crops. I haven't
seen a bean beetle in years. Fruit trees seem > much harder
to deal with. The borer for every species thing doesn't >
help. The curculio seem to have developed the perfect system,
simply > ruin all the fruit for any other creature but let a few
fruits hang on > long enough to make a few seeds for the trees to
reproduce. Codling > moths aren't nearly as efficient.
Someone asked me at work about what > was eating the leaves on
various species of veggies in her first ever > garden. Two
of us were interrogating her, as she was obviously > describing
rabbit or deer damage. the same bug does not attack > all
those species, and each one does it's own very specific thing.
> The older men in the family had simply gone out and dusted Sevin
to > deal with all those other pests. Here our worlds
divide. I adore > bugs, except for the ones I hate with a
passion. I could never spray > my garden with an
insecticide, it would kill too many of my miniature >
wildlife. ( I don't have to go on safari to Africa or even use
> binoculars to observe amazing creatures and great drama. Try
watching > one of those special spider wasps in action. You
know, the blackish > ones with the orange curly antennae.
Know what they use those > antennae for? They feel the
spider very carefully with them to find > the right spot to
sting. It's rather obscene to watch, esp as I am so > fond
of wolf spiders. ) I know a great deal about all kinds of bugs,
> including those that have no economic impact on me.
Tennessee > oldtimers don't know these things, they kill
everything with Sevin. > That is >
scientific? I get a big kick out of explaining to oldtimers
about > why the blister beetles they hate so much are only a
mixed curse, > because their young feed on grasshopper
eggs. Once we got banties > running loose eating
grasshoppers, the blister beetles became rare. >
Sevin is one of the 4 food groups in Tennessee. Never mind that
> it is a neurotoxin that mammals can break down in their livers
because > they have an enzyme that insects don't have.
Never mind that this > enzyme can be used up by repeated exposure
or that certain medications > can use it up. Never mind the
reports in Organic Gardening, that > magazine for superstitious
organic gardeners about how Sevin can last > 40 days in the
garden in certain conditions. Never mind the final >
conclusion in the book A PLAGUE OF FROGS that it was the breakdown
> product of a pesticide that interfered with the thyroid function
in > the developing frogs and caused the limb deformities.
The researchers > working with the pesticide itself did not get
these results, giving > the impression that it would not affect
frogs. Yes, there is also > some kind of amphibian
infection running around that can do this, but > the Canadian
researcher said flatly that in his years of sampling, > that
only > farm ponds with lots of pesticides produced
deformities. Is it truly > scientific to assume that
chemicals don't break down into intermediate > products out in
Nature? Some of us organic nuts are now bitter and >
twisted, having realised that the world consists mostly of creatures
> saying gimme. We watch longingly the simple lives of chemical
users, > but are still only too aware that the miracle of modern
chemistry is > biting America's backside in the rates of cancer
and other health > problems. > This
is not intended as an attack on anyone on this group, I am >
merely addressing the great divide in Nafex. Never mind politics,
we > don't go to Nafex meetings and then immediately try to
figure out > whether we are talking to a Dem or Rep, we want to
know if we are > talking with someone who grows resistant stuff
or who grows the best > of everything and sprays. Both
groups start out naive, but one trusts > the chemical companies
and sprays, the other puts their faith in > Nature and doesn't
spray. Both get rewards, but often the organic > bunch have
to do a whole lot more learning first. Personally, I would
> love to see the concept of IPM agriculture blossom. I would
love to > be able to buy IPM produce in my local grocery.
But somehow the > concept has never gotten major attention among
consumers and > publications to consumers. IPM is
definitely the most scientific form > of agriculture in my
opinion. It is based on the intersection of 3 > realities,
economic > reality, and the knowlege of biology and
chemistry. > I suppose this is the foundation
for an article I have long wanted > to write for Pomona but never
could quite figure out how to approach. > The divide in
Nafex between the organic and the chemical people is > quite
deep. People have their minds as made up already as they did in
> the last election. I soon discovered last year that I could
only > discuss politics with like minded people, that there were
no > discussions between sides, only arguments. I think the
divide is > addressed by the Meyers-Briggs, Kiersey-Bates
personality tests. The > division is between the 25% of the
population who see the forest, and > the 75% who see the
trees. Between the big picture and the details. > The
big picture people think the detail people are idiots because they
> can't grasp the implications of what they do. The detail people
think > the big picture people are idiots because they are
vague. For the > extremes of either type, there is sudden
glazing over of the eyes when > forced to converse with someone of
the other brain type. I have > watched it happen, I have
experienced it myself. My husband once > endured an
excruciating conversation between a brother and BIL of > mine, 15
full minutes regarding a scratch on a car and what to do > about
it. Our attitude is, the car is transportation, a scratch means
> nothing to that purpose. To detail people, a scratch is a very
real > thing. > For the
purposes of this discussion, ask yourself which type you > are,
and would you please report in which type you are and whether you
> think organic gardening is stupid and chemicals are fine.
Remember > there are people in the middle, more versatile people
than the ones at > the ends of the spectrum. If you are in
the middle, what is your > opinion re chemicals, in 25 words or
less? Thank you. Any input > regarding an
article for Pomona on this subject would be very much >
appreciated. A group effort will produce a better balanced
article. > Some details, some theory, something for
everyone. Donna > > -----Inline Attachment
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