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  • From: "Dinsmoor" <dinsmoor@sopris.net>
  • To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Tree planting in the driest place on Earth/Digging inrocks
  • Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:39:35 -0600

Melissa, we are the same here in Colorado where this is a glacial runout with lots of river rock. 3 feet of hole would leave about 2' of topsoil in the bottom. We are using a backhoe for the fence posts. Good luck. Jane
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Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Tree planting in the driest place on Earth/Digging inrocks

Good luck to this restoration program. Another country that needs this is Qatar, where my family spends part of the year. It's a desert, because it virtually never rains, but it's terribly humid, and the mornings can be quite foggy. The humidity makes the extreme heat feel that much worse.

But who needs an environment when you have lots of fossil fuels and air conditioning?

Slightly closer to topic, any advice on digging holes for trees and fenceposts? I might say that my soil is rocky, or I might say that my rocks are dirty. I got a book on building fences that says my posts should be sunk 2 or 3 feet into the ground. We're hiring a guy with some hole-drilling equipment, but I'm having trouble picturing how any equipment wouldn't just break in this ground. We dug a hole for a tree yesterday, which meant we'd dig a few inches through soil and small rocks, and then the shovel would go "clang" so we'd get the pickax and pry out a rock about a foot in diameter and 3 inches thick. Then repeat. This is slow going for wide holes for trees, but doable. I don't see how deep narrow holes for fenceposts would be possible, though.

Melissa

--- On Mon, 4/20/09, Kevin Moore <aleguy33@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Kevin Moore <aleguy33@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Tree planting in the driest place on Earth
To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 3:53 PM

It sounds like the Huaranga has adapted to a similar water capturing strategy to the coastal redwoods of California. Captured fog is the primary water resource of the central California coast. It is always damp and cool in the forest. Where the trees have been denuded, the soil is parched and temperatures soar. The streams dry up and even the toughest succulents struggle to survive.


From: Douglas Woodard <dwoodard@becon.org>
To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 2:22:41 PM
Subject: [NAFEX] Tree planting in the driest place on Earth

Restoring tropical dry forest in the southern coastal desert of Peru.
Extreme tree planting, we might say. Possible on the outer boundary of
our theme, but likely relevant to some members.
See
<http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7934406.stm>

Doug Woodard
St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada


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