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["Webmail wynne" <wynne@crcwnet.com>]

concerning plum cultivars i dont like
i really like all the ones that i grow   chose carefully and came up
with winners  dont forget those pluots  seem to be very disease
resistant
and my customers fight over the elephant heart plums   so do my workers
those are my signs   oh and my daughter eats all the dried elelphant
hearts there are

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> i meant santa rosa not san jose   wynne
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> On 1/1/09, Webmail wynne <wynne@crcwnet.com> wrote:
>> my favorite plum and i grow the mariposa, satsuma, san jose, green
>> gage, early italian is the elephant heart     also quite taken with
>> the pluots; had production this
>> season and the flavor supreme and the dapple dandy were terrific
>> wynne @jerzyboyz farm in nc washington state
>>
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>>> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 01:13:20 -0500 (EST)
>>> From: dwoodard@becon.org
>>> Subject: [NAFEX] Squirrel enemies:  the pine marten in England
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>>> We had a report some time ago about pine martens in Germany. I thought
>>> that some might be interested in this report of its survival in Scotland
>>> and possibly in northern England.
>>> See
>>> <http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/3616947.Spy_cameras_aim_to_track_down_elusive_martens/>
>>>
>>> Doug Woodard
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 23:14:05 -0800
>>> From: "Stephen Sadler" <Docshiva@Docshiva.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Plum thoughts please
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>>> I take it the in-laws are in Kansas?  The best way to grow plums in my
>>> experience is to be in California, although I know that may present
>>> difficulties for most... with the warm dry summers, they grow pretty much
>>> disease free, and I never had pests to deal with, either.  Now, apples
>>> are
>>> a
>>> different story... anyway, in-laws location might be useful.  It's not
>>> just
>>> the zone that matters...
>>>
>>> I hope they grow some nice varieties.  I always found plum growing
>>> rewarding.
>>>
>>> Happy New Year,
>>>
>>> ~ Stephen
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
>>> [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Mark Angermayer
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 7:27 PM
>>> To: North American Fruit Explorers
>>> Subject: [NAFEX] Plum thoughts please
>>>
>>> Hi Folks,
>>>
>>> One of my in-laws wants to plant some plums and needs some advice.  The
>>> situation is that the plums will be low-spray, or possibly no spray at
>>> all.
>>> I've seen the site and believe the disease pressure will be very low.  It
>>> is
>>> in the downtown of a city of 30,000.  Lots of concrete, and, as as far as
>>> I
>>> could tell, very few fruit trees around.  So I'm hopeful he can raise
>>> some
>>> plums without too much trouble from insects.  Without looking it up, I
>>> believe the area only gets 30-35 inches of rain per year.   Zone 6.
>>>
>>> I want to recommend some high quality cultivars, but they need to have
>>> some
>>> resistance to disease, specifically brown rot.  I know about the AU
>>> series
>>> of plums, and have some myself (that haven't fruited yet) but I've heard
>>> too
>>> many negative comments about quality to recommend them.  Plus I don't
>>> think
>>> he needs something immune to brown rot, just something not hyper
>>> sensitive
>>> to it.
>>>
>>> Some ideas:
>>>
>>> French Petite- I've heard Ed, Lon, and others sing praises for this plum,
>>> does anyone raise this plum without spray?
>>>
>>> Superior- I have this plum ordered for next spring and have it
>>> recommended
>>> by S. Smith and Ossi.  Can either of you guys comment on its
>>> susceptiblity
>>> to brown rot?
>>>
>>> Any other suggestions?  We can go with Europeans or Jap/Amer hybrids.  He
>>> has room for about four trees.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Mark
>>> KS
>>>
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>>> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 01:30:15 -0600
>>> From: "Mark Angermayer" <hangermayer@isp.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Plum thoughts please
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>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>
>>> The in-laws are in SE Kansas.  About 5 miles from the Oklahoma border.
>>> They're almost in zone 7.  With regard to California, don't rub it in :-)
>>> Ship us some of that dry weather, will ya.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Stephen Sadler" <>
>>> To: "'North American Fruit Explorers'" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 1:14 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Plum thoughts please
>>>
>>>
>>>> I take it the in-laws are in Kansas?  The best way to grow plums in my
>>>> experience is to be in California, although I know that may present
>>>> difficulties for most... with the warm dry summers, they grow pretty
>>>> much
>>>> disease free, and I never had pests to deal with, either.  Now, apples
>>>> are
>>> a
>>>> different story... anyway, in-laws location might be useful.  It's not
>>> just
>>>> the zone that matters...
>>>>
>>>> I hope they grow some nice varieties.  I always found plum growing
>>>> rewarding.
>>>>
>>>> Happy New Year,
>>>>
>>>> ~ Stephen
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
>>>> [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Mark Angermayer
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 7:27 PM
>>>> To: North American Fruit Explorers
>>>> Subject: [NAFEX] Plum thoughts please
>>>>
>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>
>>>> One of my in-laws wants to plant some plums and needs some advice.  The
>>>> situation is that the plums will be low-spray, or possibly no spray at
>>> all.
>>>> I've seen the site and believe the disease pressure will be very low.
>>>> It
>>> is
>>>> in the downtown of a city of 30,000.  Lots of concrete, and, as as far
>>>> as
>>> I
>>>> could tell, very few fruit trees around.  So I'm hopeful he can raise
>>>> some
>>>> plums without too much trouble from insects.  Without looking it up, I
>>>> believe the area only gets 30-35 inches of rain per year.   Zone 6.
>>>>
>>>> I want to recommend some high quality cultivars, but they need to have
>>> some
>>>> resistance to disease, specifically brown rot.  I know about the AU
>>>> series
>>>> of plums, and have some myself (that haven't fruited yet) but I've heard
>>> too
>>>> many negative comments about quality to recommend them.  Plus I don't
>>> think
>>>> he needs something immune to brown rot, just something not hyper
>>>> sensitive
>>>> to it.
>>>>
>>>> Some ideas:
>>>>
>>>> French Petite- I've heard Ed, Lon, and others sing praises for this
>>>> plum,
>>>> does anyone raise this plum without spray?
>>>>
>>>> Superior- I have this plum ordered for next spring and have it
>>>> recommended
>>>> by S. Smith and Ossi.  Can either of you guys comment on its
>>>> susceptiblity
>>>> to brown rot?
>>>>
>>>> Any other suggestions?  We can go with Europeans or Jap/Amer hybrids.
>>>> He
>>>> has room for about four trees.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>> Mark
>>>> KS
>>>>
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>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 23:49:59 -0800
>>> From: "Stephen Sadler" <Docshiva@Docshiva.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Plum thoughts please
>>> To: "'North American Fruit Explorers'" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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>>> We're a couple years into a drought, so we have dry weather to spare.
>>> I'll
>>> pack some up for you!
>>>
>>> ~ Stephen
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Mark Angermayer
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 11:30 PM
>>> To: North American Fruit Explorers
>>> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Plum thoughts please
>>>
>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>
>>> The in-laws are in SE Kansas.  About 5 miles from the Oklahoma border.
>>> They're almost in zone 7.  With regard to California, don't rub it in :-)
>>> Ship us some of that dry weather, will ya.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Stephen Sadler" <>
>>> To: "'North American Fruit Explorers'" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 1:14 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Plum thoughts please
>>>
>>>
>>>> I take it the in-laws are in Kansas?  The best way to grow plums in my
>>>> experience is to be in California, although I know that may present
>>>> difficulties for most... with the warm dry summers, they grow pretty
>>>> much
>>>> disease free, and I never had pests to deal with, either.  Now, apples
>>>> are
>>> a
>>>> different story... anyway, in-laws location might be useful.  It's not
>>> just
>>>> the zone that matters...
>>>>
>>>> I hope they grow some nice varieties.  I always found plum growing
>>>> rewarding.
>>>>
>>>> Happy New Year,
>>>>
>>>> ~ Stephen
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
>>>> [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Mark Angermayer
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 7:27 PM
>>>> To: North American Fruit Explorers
>>>> Subject: [NAFEX] Plum thoughts please
>>>>
>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>
>>>> One of my in-laws wants to plant some plums and needs some advice.  The
>>>> situation is that the plums will be low-spray, or possibly no spray at
>>> all.
>>>> I've seen the site and believe the disease pressure will be very low.
>>>> It
>>> is
>>>> in the downtown of a city of 30,000.  Lots of concrete, and, as as far
>>>> as
>>> I
>>>> could tell, very few fruit trees around.  So I'm hopeful he can raise
>>>> some
>>>> plums without too much trouble from insects.  Without looking it up, I
>>>> believe the area only gets 30-35 inches of rain per year.   Zone 6.
>>>>
>>>> I want to recommend some high quality cultivars, but they need to have
>>> some
>>>> resistance to disease, specifically brown rot.  I know about the AU
>>>> series
>>>> of plums, and have some myself (that haven't fruited yet) but I've heard
>>> too
>>>> many negative comments about quality to recommend them.  Plus I don't
>>> think
>>>> he needs something immune to brown rot, just something not hyper
>>>> sensitive
>>>> to it.
>>>>
>>>> Some ideas:
>>>>
>>>> French Petite- I've heard Ed, Lon, and others sing praises for this
>>>> plum,
>>>> does anyone raise this plum without spray?
>>>>
>>>> Superior- I have this plum ordered for next spring and have it
>>>> recommended
>>>> by S. Smith and Ossi.  Can either of you guys comment on its
>>>> susceptiblity
>>>> to brown rot?
>>>>
>>>> Any other suggestions?  We can go with Europeans or Jap/Amer hybrids.
>>>> He
>>>> has room for about four trees.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>> Mark
>>>> KS
>>>>
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>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 09:01:11 -0800
>>> From: Spidra Webster <spidra@speakeasy.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Plum thoughts please
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>>> Just so you don't feel *too* envious, those of us on the coast often
>>> get fog, which certainly makes peach growing hard and sometimes
>>> messes up the plums as well.
>>>
>>> On Dec 31, 2008, at 11:30 PM, Mark Angermayer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>>
>>>> The in-laws are in SE Kansas.  About 5 miles from the Oklahoma border.
>>>> They're almost in zone 7.  With regard to California, don't rub it
>>>> in :-)
>>>> Ship us some of that dry weather, will ya.
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 17:17:47 -0600
> From: "Mark Angermayer" <hangermayer@isp.com>
> Subject: [NAFEX] Plum cultivars
> To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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> Wynne,
>
> Care to share some plum cultivars you don't like?  Those that didn't make
> the cut with you.
>
> Mark
> KS
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Webmail wynne" >
> To: <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 2:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] nafex Digest, Vol 72, Issue 1
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>
>> i meant santa rosa not san jose   wynne
>>
>> On 1/1/09, Webmail wynne <> wrote:
>> > my favorite plum and i grow the mariposa, satsuma, san jose, green
>> > gage, early italian is the elephant heart     also quite taken with
>> > the pluots; had production this
>> > season and the flavor supreme and the dapple dandy were terrific
>> > wynne @jerzyboyz farm in nc washington state
>> >
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 23:58:29 +0000
> From: Joseph Richardson <joe_r_richardson@hotmail.com>
> Subject: [NAFEX] Growing Highbush Cranberry Viburnum Edule in more
>       southerly locations
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> I'm in the the Midwest zone 5A which is further south than the native range
> of Viburnum Edule.  I was thinking of planting some, so I was wondering if
> anyone has had success growing them and getting fruit production in a
> similar climate.
>
> Joseph Richardson
> Northwestern IL
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> Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 19:40:36 -0500
> From: mangodance <bmn@iglou.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Growing Highbush Cranberry Viburnum Edule in more
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> Joseph Richardson wrote:
>
>> I'm in the the Midwest zone 5A which is further south than the native
>> range of Viburnum Edule.  I was thinking of planting some, so I was
>> wondering if anyone has had success growing them and getting fruit
>> production in a similar climate.
>>
>> Joseph Richardson
>> Northwestern IL
>
> I grew them in Louisville, KY for 10+ years.  Fruited well.
>
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