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i meant santa rosa not san jose   wynne

On 1/1/09, Webmail wynne <wynne@crcwnet.com> wrote:
> my favorite plum and i grow the mariposa, satsuma, san jose, green
> gage, early italian is the elephant heart     also quite taken with
> the pluots; had production this
> season and the flavor supreme and the dapple dandy were terrific
> wynne @jerzyboyz farm in nc washington state
>
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>>    1. Squirrel enemies:  the pine marten in England (dwoodard@becon.org)
>>    2. Re: Plum thoughts please (Stephen Sadler)
>>    3. Re: Plum thoughts please (Mark Angermayer)
>>    4. Re: Plum thoughts please (Stephen Sadler)
>>    5. Re: Plum thoughts please (Spidra Webster)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 01:13:20 -0500 (EST)
>> From: dwoodard@becon.org
>> Subject: [NAFEX] Squirrel enemies:  the pine marten in England
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>> We had a report some time ago about pine martens in Germany. I thought
>> that some might be interested in this report of its survival in Scotland
>> and possibly in northern England.
>> See
>> <http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/3616947.Spy_cameras_aim_to_track_down_elusive_martens/>
>>
>> Doug Woodard
>> St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada
>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 23:14:05 -0800
>> From: "Stephen Sadler" <Docshiva@Docshiva.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Plum thoughts please
>> To: "'North American Fruit Explorers'" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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>> I take it the in-laws are in Kansas?  The best way to grow plums in my
>> experience is to be in California, although I know that may present
>> difficulties for most... with the warm dry summers, they grow pretty much
>> disease free, and I never had pests to deal with, either.  Now, apples are
>> a
>> different story... anyway, in-laws location might be useful.  It's not
>> just
>> the zone that matters...
>>
>> I hope they grow some nice varieties.  I always found plum growing
>> rewarding.
>>
>> Happy New Year,
>>
>> ~ Stephen
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
>> [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Mark Angermayer
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 7:27 PM
>> To: North American Fruit Explorers
>> Subject: [NAFEX] Plum thoughts please
>>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> One of my in-laws wants to plant some plums and needs some advice.  The
>> situation is that the plums will be low-spray, or possibly no spray at
>> all.
>> I've seen the site and believe the disease pressure will be very low.  It
>> is
>> in the downtown of a city of 30,000.  Lots of concrete, and, as as far as
>> I
>> could tell, very few fruit trees around.  So I'm hopeful he can raise some
>> plums without too much trouble from insects.  Without looking it up, I
>> believe the area only gets 30-35 inches of rain per year.   Zone 6.
>>
>> I want to recommend some high quality cultivars, but they need to have
>> some
>> resistance to disease, specifically brown rot.  I know about the AU series
>> of plums, and have some myself (that haven't fruited yet) but I've heard
>> too
>> many negative comments about quality to recommend them.  Plus I don't
>> think
>> he needs something immune to brown rot, just something not hyper sensitive
>> to it.
>>
>> Some ideas:
>>
>> French Petite- I've heard Ed, Lon, and others sing praises for this plum,
>> does anyone raise this plum without spray?
>>
>> Superior- I have this plum ordered for next spring and have it recommended
>> by S. Smith and Ossi.  Can either of you guys comment on its susceptiblity
>> to brown rot?
>>
>> Any other suggestions?  We can go with Europeans or Jap/Amer hybrids.  He
>> has room for about four trees.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Mark
>> KS
>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 01:30:15 -0600
>> From: "Mark Angermayer" <hangermayer@isp.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Plum thoughts please
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>> Hi Stephen,
>>
>> The in-laws are in SE Kansas.  About 5 miles from the Oklahoma border.
>> They're almost in zone 7.  With regard to California, don't rub it in :-)
>> Ship us some of that dry weather, will ya.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Stephen Sadler" <>
>> To: "'North American Fruit Explorers'" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 1:14 AM
>> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Plum thoughts please
>>
>>
>>> I take it the in-laws are in Kansas?  The best way to grow plums in my
>>> experience is to be in California, although I know that may present
>>> difficulties for most... with the warm dry summers, they grow pretty much
>>> disease free, and I never had pests to deal with, either.  Now, apples
>>> are
>> a
>>> different story... anyway, in-laws location might be useful.  It's not
>> just
>>> the zone that matters...
>>>
>>> I hope they grow some nice varieties.  I always found plum growing
>>> rewarding.
>>>
>>> Happy New Year,
>>>
>>> ~ Stephen
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
>>> [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Mark Angermayer
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 7:27 PM
>>> To: North American Fruit Explorers
>>> Subject: [NAFEX] Plum thoughts please
>>>
>>> Hi Folks,
>>>
>>> One of my in-laws wants to plant some plums and needs some advice.  The
>>> situation is that the plums will be low-spray, or possibly no spray at
>> all.
>>> I've seen the site and believe the disease pressure will be very low.  It
>> is
>>> in the downtown of a city of 30,000.  Lots of concrete, and, as as far as
>> I
>>> could tell, very few fruit trees around.  So I'm hopeful he can raise
>>> some
>>> plums without too much trouble from insects.  Without looking it up, I
>>> believe the area only gets 30-35 inches of rain per year.   Zone 6.
>>>
>>> I want to recommend some high quality cultivars, but they need to have
>> some
>>> resistance to disease, specifically brown rot.  I know about the AU
>>> series
>>> of plums, and have some myself (that haven't fruited yet) but I've heard
>> too
>>> many negative comments about quality to recommend them.  Plus I don't
>> think
>>> he needs something immune to brown rot, just something not hyper
>>> sensitive
>>> to it.
>>>
>>> Some ideas:
>>>
>>> French Petite- I've heard Ed, Lon, and others sing praises for this plum,
>>> does anyone raise this plum without spray?
>>>
>>> Superior- I have this plum ordered for next spring and have it
>>> recommended
>>> by S. Smith and Ossi.  Can either of you guys comment on its
>>> susceptiblity
>>> to brown rot?
>>>
>>> Any other suggestions?  We can go with Europeans or Jap/Amer hybrids.  He
>>> has room for about four trees.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Mark
>>> KS
>>>
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 23:49:59 -0800
>> From: "Stephen Sadler" <Docshiva@Docshiva.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Plum thoughts please
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>> We're a couple years into a drought, so we have dry weather to spare.
>> I'll
>> pack some up for you!
>>
>> ~ Stephen
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
>> [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Mark Angermayer
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 11:30 PM
>> To: North American Fruit Explorers
>> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Plum thoughts please
>>
>> Hi Stephen,
>>
>> The in-laws are in SE Kansas.  About 5 miles from the Oklahoma border.
>> They're almost in zone 7.  With regard to California, don't rub it in :-)
>> Ship us some of that dry weather, will ya.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Stephen Sadler" <>
>> To: "'North American Fruit Explorers'" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 1:14 AM
>> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Plum thoughts please
>>
>>
>>> I take it the in-laws are in Kansas?  The best way to grow plums in my
>>> experience is to be in California, although I know that may present
>>> difficulties for most... with the warm dry summers, they grow pretty much
>>> disease free, and I never had pests to deal with, either.  Now, apples
>>> are
>> a
>>> different story... anyway, in-laws location might be useful.  It's not
>> just
>>> the zone that matters...
>>>
>>> I hope they grow some nice varieties.  I always found plum growing
>>> rewarding.
>>>
>>> Happy New Year,
>>>
>>> ~ Stephen
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
>>> [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Mark Angermayer
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 7:27 PM
>>> To: North American Fruit Explorers
>>> Subject: [NAFEX] Plum thoughts please
>>>
>>> Hi Folks,
>>>
>>> One of my in-laws wants to plant some plums and needs some advice.  The
>>> situation is that the plums will be low-spray, or possibly no spray at
>> all.
>>> I've seen the site and believe the disease pressure will be very low.  It
>> is
>>> in the downtown of a city of 30,000.  Lots of concrete, and, as as far as
>> I
>>> could tell, very few fruit trees around.  So I'm hopeful he can raise
>>> some
>>> plums without too much trouble from insects.  Without looking it up, I
>>> believe the area only gets 30-35 inches of rain per year.   Zone 6.
>>>
>>> I want to recommend some high quality cultivars, but they need to have
>> some
>>> resistance to disease, specifically brown rot.  I know about the AU
>>> series
>>> of plums, and have some myself (that haven't fruited yet) but I've heard
>> too
>>> many negative comments about quality to recommend them.  Plus I don't
>> think
>>> he needs something immune to brown rot, just something not hyper
>>> sensitive
>>> to it.
>>>
>>> Some ideas:
>>>
>>> French Petite- I've heard Ed, Lon, and others sing praises for this plum,
>>> does anyone raise this plum without spray?
>>>
>>> Superior- I have this plum ordered for next spring and have it
>>> recommended
>>> by S. Smith and Ossi.  Can either of you guys comment on its
>>> susceptiblity
>>> to brown rot?
>>>
>>> Any other suggestions?  We can go with Europeans or Jap/Amer hybrids.  He
>>> has room for about four trees.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Mark
>>> KS
>>>
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 09:01:11 -0800
>> From: Spidra Webster <spidra@speakeasy.net>
>> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Plum thoughts please
>> To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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>> Just so you don't feel *too* envious, those of us on the coast often
>> get fog, which certainly makes peach growing hard and sometimes
>> messes up the plums as well.
>>
>> On Dec 31, 2008, at 11:30 PM, Mark Angermayer wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>
>>> The in-laws are in SE Kansas.  About 5 miles from the Oklahoma border.
>>> They're almost in zone 7.  With regard to California, don't rub it
>>> in :-)
>>> Ship us some of that dry weather, will ya.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>
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