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["Webmail wynne" <wynne@crcwnet.com>]

my favorite plum and i grow the mariposa, satsuma, san jose, green
gage, early italian is the elephant heart     also quite taken with
the pluots; had production this
season and the flavor supreme and the dapple dandy were terrific
wynne @jerzyboyz farm in nc washington state

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>    1. Squirrel enemies:  the pine marten in England (dwoodard@becon.org)
>    2. Re: Plum thoughts please (Stephen Sadler)
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>    4. Re: Plum thoughts please (Stephen Sadler)
>    5. Re: Plum thoughts please (Spidra Webster)
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> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 01:13:20 -0500 (EST)
> From: dwoodard@becon.org
> Subject: [NAFEX] Squirrel enemies:  the pine marten in England
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> We had a report some time ago about pine martens in Germany. I thought
> that some might be interested in this report of its survival in Scotland
> and possibly in northern England.
> See
> <http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/3616947.Spy_cameras_aim_to_track_down_elusive_martens/>
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> Doug Woodard
> St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 23:14:05 -0800
> From: "Stephen Sadler" <Docshiva@Docshiva.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Plum thoughts please
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> I take it the in-laws are in Kansas?  The best way to grow plums in my
> experience is to be in California, although I know that may present
> difficulties for most... with the warm dry summers, they grow pretty much
> disease free, and I never had pests to deal with, either.  Now, apples are a
> different story... anyway, in-laws location might be useful.  It's not just
> the zone that matters...
>
> I hope they grow some nice varieties.  I always found plum growing
> rewarding.
>
> Happy New Year,
>
> ~ Stephen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
> [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Mark Angermayer
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 7:27 PM
> To: North American Fruit Explorers
> Subject: [NAFEX] Plum thoughts please
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> One of my in-laws wants to plant some plums and needs some advice.  The
> situation is that the plums will be low-spray, or possibly no spray at all.
> I've seen the site and believe the disease pressure will be very low.  It is
> in the downtown of a city of 30,000.  Lots of concrete, and, as as far as I
> could tell, very few fruit trees around.  So I'm hopeful he can raise some
> plums without too much trouble from insects.  Without looking it up, I
> believe the area only gets 30-35 inches of rain per year.   Zone 6.
>
> I want to recommend some high quality cultivars, but they need to have some
> resistance to disease, specifically brown rot.  I know about the AU series
> of plums, and have some myself (that haven't fruited yet) but I've heard too
> many negative comments about quality to recommend them.  Plus I don't think
> he needs something immune to brown rot, just something not hyper sensitive
> to it.
>
> Some ideas:
>
> French Petite- I've heard Ed, Lon, and others sing praises for this plum,
> does anyone raise this plum without spray?
>
> Superior- I have this plum ordered for next spring and have it recommended
> by S. Smith and Ossi.  Can either of you guys comment on its susceptiblity
> to brown rot?
>
> Any other suggestions?  We can go with Europeans or Jap/Amer hybrids.  He
> has room for about four trees.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Mark
> KS
>
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> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 01:30:15 -0600
> From: "Mark Angermayer" <hangermayer@isp.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Plum thoughts please
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> Hi Stephen,
>
> The in-laws are in SE Kansas.  About 5 miles from the Oklahoma border.
> They're almost in zone 7.  With regard to California, don't rub it in :-)
> Ship us some of that dry weather, will ya.
>
> Mark
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stephen Sadler" <>
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> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 1:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Plum thoughts please
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>
>> I take it the in-laws are in Kansas?  The best way to grow plums in my
>> experience is to be in California, although I know that may present
>> difficulties for most... with the warm dry summers, they grow pretty much
>> disease free, and I never had pests to deal with, either.  Now, apples are
> a
>> different story... anyway, in-laws location might be useful.  It's not
> just
>> the zone that matters...
>>
>> I hope they grow some nice varieties.  I always found plum growing
>> rewarding.
>>
>> Happy New Year,
>>
>> ~ Stephen
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
>> [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Mark Angermayer
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 7:27 PM
>> To: North American Fruit Explorers
>> Subject: [NAFEX] Plum thoughts please
>>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> One of my in-laws wants to plant some plums and needs some advice.  The
>> situation is that the plums will be low-spray, or possibly no spray at
> all.
>> I've seen the site and believe the disease pressure will be very low.  It
> is
>> in the downtown of a city of 30,000.  Lots of concrete, and, as as far as
> I
>> could tell, very few fruit trees around.  So I'm hopeful he can raise some
>> plums without too much trouble from insects.  Without looking it up, I
>> believe the area only gets 30-35 inches of rain per year.   Zone 6.
>>
>> I want to recommend some high quality cultivars, but they need to have
> some
>> resistance to disease, specifically brown rot.  I know about the AU series
>> of plums, and have some myself (that haven't fruited yet) but I've heard
> too
>> many negative comments about quality to recommend them.  Plus I don't
> think
>> he needs something immune to brown rot, just something not hyper sensitive
>> to it.
>>
>> Some ideas:
>>
>> French Petite- I've heard Ed, Lon, and others sing praises for this plum,
>> does anyone raise this plum without spray?
>>
>> Superior- I have this plum ordered for next spring and have it recommended
>> by S. Smith and Ossi.  Can either of you guys comment on its susceptiblity
>> to brown rot?
>>
>> Any other suggestions?  We can go with Europeans or Jap/Amer hybrids.  He
>> has room for about four trees.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Mark
>> KS
>>
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> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 23:49:59 -0800
> From: "Stephen Sadler" <Docshiva@Docshiva.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Plum thoughts please
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> We're a couple years into a drought, so we have dry weather to spare.  I'll
> pack some up for you!
>
> ~ Stephen
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Mark Angermayer
> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 11:30 PM
> To: North American Fruit Explorers
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Plum thoughts please
>
> Hi Stephen,
>
> The in-laws are in SE Kansas.  About 5 miles from the Oklahoma border.
> They're almost in zone 7.  With regard to California, don't rub it in :-)
> Ship us some of that dry weather, will ya.
>
> Mark
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stephen Sadler" <>
> To: "'North American Fruit Explorers'" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 1:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Plum thoughts please
>
>
>> I take it the in-laws are in Kansas?  The best way to grow plums in my
>> experience is to be in California, although I know that may present
>> difficulties for most... with the warm dry summers, they grow pretty much
>> disease free, and I never had pests to deal with, either.  Now, apples are
> a
>> different story... anyway, in-laws location might be useful.  It's not
> just
>> the zone that matters...
>>
>> I hope they grow some nice varieties.  I always found plum growing
>> rewarding.
>>
>> Happy New Year,
>>
>> ~ Stephen
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
>> [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Mark Angermayer
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 7:27 PM
>> To: North American Fruit Explorers
>> Subject: [NAFEX] Plum thoughts please
>>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> One of my in-laws wants to plant some plums and needs some advice.  The
>> situation is that the plums will be low-spray, or possibly no spray at
> all.
>> I've seen the site and believe the disease pressure will be very low.  It
> is
>> in the downtown of a city of 30,000.  Lots of concrete, and, as as far as
> I
>> could tell, very few fruit trees around.  So I'm hopeful he can raise some
>> plums without too much trouble from insects.  Without looking it up, I
>> believe the area only gets 30-35 inches of rain per year.   Zone 6.
>>
>> I want to recommend some high quality cultivars, but they need to have
> some
>> resistance to disease, specifically brown rot.  I know about the AU series
>> of plums, and have some myself (that haven't fruited yet) but I've heard
> too
>> many negative comments about quality to recommend them.  Plus I don't
> think
>> he needs something immune to brown rot, just something not hyper sensitive
>> to it.
>>
>> Some ideas:
>>
>> French Petite- I've heard Ed, Lon, and others sing praises for this plum,
>> does anyone raise this plum without spray?
>>
>> Superior- I have this plum ordered for next spring and have it recommended
>> by S. Smith and Ossi.  Can either of you guys comment on its susceptiblity
>> to brown rot?
>>
>> Any other suggestions?  We can go with Europeans or Jap/Amer hybrids.  He
>> has room for about four trees.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Mark
>> KS
>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 09:01:11 -0800
> From: Spidra Webster <spidra@speakeasy.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Plum thoughts please
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> Just so you don't feel *too* envious, those of us on the coast often
> get fog, which certainly makes peach growing hard and sometimes
> messes up the plums as well.
>
> On Dec 31, 2008, at 11:30 PM, Mark Angermayer wrote:
>
>> Hi Stephen,
>>
>> The in-laws are in SE Kansas.  About 5 miles from the Oklahoma border.
>> They're almost in zone 7.  With regard to California, don't rub it
>> in :-)
>> Ship us some of that dry weather, will ya.
>>
>> Mark
>
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