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["Alan Haigh" <alandhaigh@gmail.com>]

If the persimmon tree was labeled Meader I would not have been surprised by seedless fruit, I planted and cut down a Meader that was advertised as self fertile and well known to me for that trait.  That other varieties occasionally bear seedless fruit comes as a mild surprise due to my ignorance, but having already learned that some and maybe many varieties of pears will bear seedless fruit with favorable weather it seems reasonable that persimmons also do this.

 

As far as my astringent persimmons not being adequately bletted, I waited long after the leaves had dropped and hard frost had softened the fruit but it was still excessively astringent.  Mango Dance, I don't know where you live but it may be that in my southeastern NY location later varieties of our native persimmon cultivars need full sun to ripen properly.  Lee Reich suggested this to me when I mentioned my issue to him, and recommend I try early ripening types.