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["Donna &/or Kieran" <holycow@cookeville.com>]

Betsy, 

    I hate to tell you this but if you have Ichi Ki Kei Jiro, you probably have the best already.  Mike Cartwright tried his best to convert me to kakis, sending me a sampling of his every fall, and the only one I liked was that one.   The soft kinds are boring compared to the natives, but Ichi Ki Kei Jiro was entirely different, rather like caramel candy.   I suppose some of the other non astringent types could be similar in taste.    Donna