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- From: Steve <sdw12986@aol.com>
- To: dmnorton@royaloakfarmorchard.com, North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Early apple pest
- Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:27:09 -0400
That helps some. I do think the eaten part seems to be near the core but not into the core as coddling moths would do. However, I still wonder how they could damage and cause drop to a really high percentage of small apples every year but then never damage another apple the rest of the year. I read that they have 3 or 4 generations. I never see them after the June generation. If my simple spray program was killing 100% of the later generations, how could there always be a big 1st generation the next year? Steve dmnorton@royaloakfarmorchard.com wrote: Steve, It could be Oriental Fruit Moth that is about half the size of Codling Moth. The instars (small larva) look similar, but OFM is smaller. Their biology is based on a GDD Base of 45 instead of 50, which is why they typically emerge prior to codling moth. They cause similar fruit damage as codling moth and will enter the fruit from either the calyx end or from the side of the apple. The only difference in their feeding habits is that OFM will generally feed on flesh away from the center of the apple, whereas CM goes for the seeds in the center. Your first treatment for OFM would fall at about 150-170 GDD after their biofix. I would think that your first Imidan spray should take care of them, but sprays have to be timed. Sprays to control the first generation should be applied about six days after the first peak adult emergence. This would usually coincide with the spray for plum curculio, which would be the Imidan spray. Hope this helps! Dennis Norton Royal Oak Farm Orchard, Zone 5 http://www.royaloakfarmorchard.com http://www.theorchardkeeper.blogspot.com http://www.revivalhymn.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" <sdw12986@aol.com> To: "NAFEx" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 9:48 PM Subject: [NAFEX] Early apple pestI've been wondering for years what this pest actually is. Even though they infest 25 to 40% of the young apples every year, they tend to not affect the final crop because the infested apples fall off when they are small and I do any thinning after that. It behaves much like coddling moth in that it tunnels in, eats and area near the center of the small fruit, then exits out the side. I could almost believe it IS the first generation of coddling moth except for the following questions: If it's coddling moth, why does it attack apples that are barely bigger than a pea, right after petal fall? I find the larvae inside and they are always small. Far smaller than any coddling moth larva I ever found in a mature apple. Petal fall was only 2 to 3 weeks ago here and already, I'm not finding any larvae in the small apples, only the exit tunnel. If it's coddling moth, why do I never find them in mature apples? I can't remember the last time I picked a ripe apple and found coddling moth damage inside. It's been so long, I'm not sure right now if I EVER had them here in this yard. (I remember them very well from when I was younger and living in central Ohio.) My entire spray program for apples consists of two sprays of Imidan, starting soon after petal fall, then 2 (sometimes 3 depending on the weather) sprays of Sevin when I start seeing apple maggot flies on my sticky apple traps. With that very simple spray schedule, my apples have been 100% free of insect damage for the last 3 years. I would find it hard to believe that Imidan is completely ineffective on a pest but Sevin is 100% successful at stopping the next generation. So, if it's not coddling moth, then what is it? More information: The entry holes are usually right at the point where 2 small apples touch each other or where an apple touches a leaf. The frass that comes out of the exit hole is dark brown but it stains my fingers orange when I break open the apple to see if there is still a larva inside. The biggest apple I ever find with an exit hole is about the size of a nickel. Most drop before reaching that size. Steve in the Adirondacks of northern NY_______________________________________________ |
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[NAFEX] Early apple pest,
Steve, 06/23/2008
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Re: [NAFEX] Early apple pest,
dmnorton, 06/24/2008
- Re: [NAFEX] Early apple pest, Steve, 06/29/2008
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Re: [NAFEX] Early apple pest,
dmnorton, 06/24/2008
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