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- From: hollaus@comcast.net (R F Hollaus)
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- Subject: [NAFEX] Insects vs. orchard Ground temperatures
- Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 09:41:27 +0000
From,
https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/nafex/2008-February/023145.html
In the Archives Ernest Plutko wrote:
>The air temperature now at 6:30 PM in northern Minnesota is +8 F.
>The ground temperature under 15 inches of snow is now +27.3 F. Quite
>a difference for plant survival. I have the sending unit of a
>wireless thermometer in a plastic baggie on the ground surface
>covered with 15 inches of snow. The coldest ground surface I
>monitored was +18.1 F when it was -34 F a few weeks ago. The weather
>this winter hasn't been really cold and we don't have much snow. The
>winter temps have been gradually getting higher. Hard to say if this
>is a long term or short term warming. Might be just a temporary
>warming. A blip. The coldest I have seen it here was -48 F. I was
>told this is now 3 ft of frost in the ground. Under the frost level
>the soil is above freezing. Any moderately hardy plant should be
>able to live under the snow at ground l evel. Above the snow is a
>rigorous, killing environment. When it is -40 F you often hear big
>trees boom when their trunks crack. Last year a big bur oak next to
>our house cracked. It had 140 growth rings.
>Winter finally got it.
>The ground temperature under 15 inches of snow is now +27.3 F. Quite
>a difference for plant survival. I have the sending unit of a
>wireless thermometer in a plastic baggie on the ground surface
>covered with 15 inches of snow. The coldest ground surface I
>monitored was +18.1 F when it was -34 F a few weeks ago. The weather
>this winter hasn't been really cold and we don't have much snow. The
>winter temps have been gradually getting higher. Hard to say if this
>is a long term or short term warming. Might be just a temporary
>warming. A blip. The coldest I have seen it here was -48 F. I was
>told this is now 3 ft of frost in the ground. Under the frost level
>the soil is above freezing. Any moderately hardy plant should be
>able to live under the snow at ground l evel. Above the snow is a
>rigorous, killing environment. When it is -40 F you often hear big
>trees boom when their trunks crack. Last year a big bur oak next to
>our house cracked. It had 140 growth rings.
>Winter finally got it.
>
>"Ernest Plutko"
Ernest,
As cold as +18.1 F is to you in Minnesota I would wonder if this
would be enough to kill the apple codling moth?
would be enough to kill the apple codling moth?
Comparatively speaking I have also been doing readings where it's
colder longer of Fairbanks in the State of Alaska. In my case I used
a mechanical insertion thermometer and I found -1 F at about 2.5"
below the soil underneath at least 20" of snow and this occurring
March 21, 2007 in -25 F ambient conditions. Being curious I also went
to the hills finding soils averaging 6 F more. Whether in the hills
or not this is apparently mild enough to many of the woody fruits not
just apples. There are some plums and even some unconfirmed reports
that I have heard of Siberian-C peach offspring of the type that Jim
Fruth had alluded to recently...
https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/nafex/2008-February/023136.html
(although I have to admit they may not have managed to make actual
peaches on them yet.)
colder longer of Fairbanks in the State of Alaska. In my case I used
a mechanical insertion thermometer and I found -1 F at about 2.5"
below the soil underneath at least 20" of snow and this occurring
March 21, 2007 in -25 F ambient conditions. Being curious I also went
to the hills finding soils averaging 6 F more. Whether in the hills
or not this is apparently mild enough to many of the woody fruits not
just apples. There are some plums and even some unconfirmed reports
that I have heard of Siberian-C peach offspring of the type that Jim
Fruth had alluded to recently...
https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/nafex/2008-February/023136.html
(although I have to admit they may not have managed to make actual
peaches on them yet.)
R.F. Hollaus (in zone-1 for Alaska)
- [NAFEX] Insects vs. orchard Ground temperatures, R F Hollaus, 03/01/2008
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