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  • From: Anton Callaway <marillen@earthlink.net>
  • To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Tasty Japanese hybrid plums for hot and humid areas?
  • Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:59:47 -0500 (GMT-05:00)

Lon,

I realize that flavor is very subjective, but care to take a whack at
describing its taste?

Anton
Zone 8

-----Original Message-----
>From: "Lon J. Rombough" <lonrom@hevanet.com>
>Sent: Nov 25, 2007 11:12 PM
>To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
>Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Tasty Japanese hybrid plums for hot and humid areas?
>
>I have an old variety that I believe to be one of the old Burbank
>hybrids. I use the "name" 4285 for the address where I found it. The
>traits of the tree make it look like some sort of old Santa Rosa hybrid
>with one or more American species. The original tree was of an age
>that suggest it came from the old Oregon Nursery Company. It has a
>growth habit suggestive of an American hybrid, but is much more
>resistant than other American hybrids like Superior, Toka, etc. I've
>tried here. It has failed to crop only once in over 35 years. Even in
>years when Japanese plums were a total loss, it came through. The only
>other variety that has done as well is Shiro. The trees of the two
>are similar, though Shiro will get some brown rot when 4285 is clean.
>The plums are reddish-blue with yellow-orange flesh. Crops are not
>heavy, but the trees I have are own rooted. 4285 might do better on
>something like Pixy rootstock.
>-Lon Rombough
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>On Nov 25, 2007, at 6:56 PM, Scott Smith wrote:
>
>To follow up on this question I had asked earlier, I checked out the
>"plum files" from the NAFEX library and found some good information.
>The Southern Plum group was active in the early 90's and several
>reports from that group were in the files.
>
>- One surprise is that the Sprite cherry-plum cross does well in hot
>and humid climates. After my bad luck with pluots I did not even
>think about trying that one, but it gets quite a few kudos. I think
>I will try it, but it may bloom too early for me.
>
>- I did not find any standout recommendations for the AU series plums
>or the new Georgia plums. AU Producer was liked by some, but on the
>other hand it got the lowest rating in a taste test in a 1993
>article. Rubysweet received the highest score in the taste test.
>That is the one new AU or Georgia plum I plan to try.
>
>- There were differing opinions on how disease-susceptible Methley
>is. One person and one study found it bad but another study found it
>not so bad at all. I may give good old Methley a try in the end,
>perhaps the samples I have tried were not grown or harvested properly.
>
>- Not many of the southern growers tested the northern hardy plums.
>Since they are also native hybrids with more disease resistance I
>would think they were worthy of trial. I did find one good report of
>Purple Heart from a grower in Mississippi. I am trialing several
>northern hardy plums right now, and am going to add a few more of them.
>
>- There were many confirmations of how poorly the pure saliciana
>(Japanese) plums do in the south due to diseases.
>
>Scott
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