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  • From: Lee Reich <garden@leereich.com>
  • To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Zone 4 Persimmon
  • Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 14:32:05 -0400

My Szukis survived below that temperature back in 1994, but leafed out very late after that and, if I remember correctly, did not ripen fruit that year.

Lee Reich, PhD

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On Jun 26, 2007, at 12:33 PM, bill dality wrote:

Never mind zone 3. Does anyone have a mature diospyros virginiana that reliably  withstands zone 4 winter temperatures (-29*C to -35*C)without injury?
What minimum temperature has it sustained and withstood?
 
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Jwlehman@aol.com wrote:
Hi Jim,

I'm going to place myself out on a limb and give you my best guess as I'm in zone 5b. No, there isn't likely a zone three persimmon. But I'd like to see you try an early bearing variety such as Juhl or Claypool's H-118, a daughter of Juhl. 

Once established D. virginiana (90 chromosome race) may survive your winters but likely you don't have a long enough growing season for fruit to mature and ripen. Even here in central west Indiana (zone 5b) the 60 chromosome persimmon doesn't ripen. I've tried several of them. They survive our winters, and we often get below -10F, but fruit stays green because the growing season ends too soon.

One more thing. You may have better luck establishing persimmon by starting from seed, then grafting.

Jerry


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In a message dated 6/11/2007 8:40:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
jfruth@tds.net writes:

 Is there really a zone 3 persimmon?  I bought two,alleged, zone 3
(wild?) persimmon last year and, after an unusually mild Winter, one died
down to the (almost no) snow line and the other died completely.



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