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["Alan ." <yarrylo@hotmail.com>]

Richard,

Thanks for the information.  I went ahead and cracked open several of the 
stones of both the dry and the fresh fruit and, as you had implied as a 
result of lack of cross-pollination, found they were not viable, as they 
held no seeds. Will be going with grafted plants instead for next year.

Alan  Stein


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> The fastest method is to crack the seed open with a vise or pair of lock
> grip pliers. The dried fruit should be ready to crack and use now but the
> seed of the fresh fruit should be dried and cold stratified in the
> refrigerator for a couple of months.  With regular pliers you may smash the
> seed kernels so use something that will not go too far and smash the seeds.
> Carefully remove the kernels and plant barely below the surface in a 1
> gallon pot with a NO fertilizer potting soil. Put a gallon plastic bag over
> the top and secure with a rubber ban or you can use one of those mini
> greenhouses. The seeds should sprout in about a week or two at the most.
> Keep them away from direct sun until they are sprouted and growing a 
> little.
> Remove the plastic bag also when they are a couple inches tall. Then put
> them under a bright light (or they will get leggy) or outside in a shady
> place if it is not too cold at night. When they go dormant, (still in the
> pot) the end of the first year, plant them outside in the ground.
> Alternately, you can just barely crack the seed and plant then directly in
> the ground. They should come up the next spring (if cracked).
> Now to seed viability, not all jujube seed are viable (will grow). Without
> cross pollination they will not be viable. Seeds of Li and Lang are usually
> not viable for an example (most fresh fruit sold in this country is Li
> variety.)
> Be sure the dried fruit did not come from India. The Indian ber (jujube) is
> not cold hardy.
> Seedling plants usually take 3-5 years to bear fruit, whereas grafted 
> plants
> usually produce fruit by the second year (sometimes the first year.)
>
> I hope this helps.
> Regards,
> Richard Ashton
> Oak Creek Orchard
> www.oakcreekorchard.com
> bwoodtx@verizon.net
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alan ." <yarrylo@hotmail.com>
> To: <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 9:46 AM
> Subject: [NAFEX] jujube seeds
>
>
> >
> >
> > I've read that jujubes will fruit within a few years when raised from
> > seed,
> > so I went to the Chinese market and purchased both fresh and dried 
> fruit.
> > I
> > was wondering if someone here has raised jujubes this way and could give
> > some advice/pointers on successfully germinating these seeds. I've read
> > that
> > the seeds from dried fruit are not viable, that the outer covering must
> > first be cracked to release the 2 seeds inside, that the seeds must 
> first
> > be
> > incubated for 2 months and then cold stratified for 3 months. Is any of
> > this
> > true in practice?
> >
> > Alan Stein
> > Pittsburgh, PA
> > zone 6
> >
> >
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