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  • From: "loneroc" <loneroc@mwt.net>
  • To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: [NAFEX] Caffeine concentration?
  • Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 15:15:04 -0500

Greetings group,

I have a chemistry question. How much caffeine do I need to add to one
gallon of water to make a 2% solution? I just learned that this is the most
lethal concoction yet discovered for snails and slugs. My orchids have
become horribly infested with tiny bush snails since I stopped watering the
plants with Cygon (dimethoate, a toxic systemic insecticide) twice a year.
I used Cygon for brown scale, principally, and when I switched to Enstar (an
insect hormone) to kill the scale there was no longer poison to do in the
snails and slugs.

My caffeine source is generic No-Doz pills at 200 mg. of caffeine each.

Steve Herje, Lone Rock WI


----- Original Message -----
From: <list@ginda.us>
To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] patenting questions


>
> On Aug 12, 2006, at 12:30 PM, tanis cuff wrote:
>
> > After seeking info til I feel like I'm going in circles, I don't
> > find clear
> > answers to the following. Can anyone suggest good info sources, or
> > offer
> > case histories? Please/thanks.
> >
> >
> > 1-- Can "chance seedlings" be patented only if they grew in
> > deliberately
> > planted nursery row, from seeds intended as starts for nursery stock?
> >
> > 2-- Chance seedlings found growing wild can NOT be patented?
>
> I don't have a source, and I'm not a lawyer, but I'd be shocked to
> learn chance/found seedlings can not be patented. The patent holder
> did the work of finding it, evaluating it, and propagating it.
> Several well known cultivars were found (probably in nurseries, and
> not in "the wild", but not intentionally bred or planted) including
> Rome, Red Delicious, and Golden Delicious. I know that Red and
> Golden Delicious were patented for a while.
>
> Ginda
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