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["Bassem Samaan" <bassem@gardener.com>]

Here's an update on the Dollywood. The tree was planted alone and no nearby persimmons, the flowers didn't get pollinated and eventually turned black and fell off. So I guess it's not self-fertile. I might need to graft a scion into it. What is recommended? a tree that will produce both male and female flowers possibly.

Bassem

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jwlehman@aol.com
> To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Dollywood Persimmon on D. Lotus rootstock
> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 23:00:39 EDT
>
> In a message dated 6/14/2006 11:33:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, bassem@gardener.com writes:
>
> > I grafted american persimmon "Dollywood" on Diospyros Lotus seedling,  2 years ago. The tree is about 2.5' ft tall, and already have dozen or so flowers.  I'm amazed of how early it set blooms. Can that be the variety or the rootstock that allowed it to bloom early?
> >
> > As far as pollenation, it is planted in my dad's yard where there's no persimmon trees in the area... would it still set fruit with out a male? 
> >
> > Bass samaa
> n
>
>
> Dear Bass,
>
> I've never bagged the flowers of Dollywood to see if it is parthenocarpic. I've never received any reports of seedless fruit from Dollywood.  
>
> Claypool grafted a large number of male scions to females to increase available pollen in his orchard. There may have been as many as 100 such. It was interesting to see that early bud break males grafted to late bud breaking females leafed out well ahead of the understock. And the same was true for visa versa situations. So the understock didn't seem to influence but very little if any the bud break time of the grafts. I would think the same would hold true for flowering.  However in the case of cross species grafts if the normal flowering time varies greatly between the two there could be some effect. But my guess is very little.    
>
> The plain truth is I don't know the answer to either question. 
>
> Jerry 
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