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["David Doud" <doudone@netusa1.net>]

    I have 'Cascade' and 'Rogue Red' - I have had Red Bartlett -
    Both varieties have grown healthily,  Cascade being a 'finer' tree,  but
the summer foliage is standard green - and the fruit run smaller with a
variable red blush over a generally yellow fruit -
    Rogue Red is a coarser tree,  very upright and has dark green/red
foliage that contrasts with all the other varieties I grow - the fruit is
large and solid deep red color -
    Rogue is the later variety and keeps very well - eating quality on
either is 'acceptable/good',  with the caveot that I have not figured out
the 'nuances' of harvest and ripening - either will hang pretty well into
October,  and I'm generally picking a lot of them in mid-september because
that's when the market is - optimum harvest date? - best guess is ~sept 25
for cascade and maybe a few days later for Rogue -
    Crops on both have been compromised by various weather events over the
past several seasons,  and Rogue has been more productive under the various
adverse situations - trees are 10 years old and are still in the process of
'settling down' -
    Both varieties have survived fireblight that devastated Bosc and Rescue
in the area - - they had a one row buffer of a USDA pear between them and
the rows on Bosc and Rescue (which have been removed due to blight) - - but
this is not conclusive evidence of tolerance and fireblight is notoriously
unpredictable -


David Doud zone 5z,  north central Indiana




----- Original Message -----



From: "Ray Kaminski" <rjkaminski@charter.net>
To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:35 PM
Subject: [NAFEX] Red skinned or red fleshed


>
> Presently have 41 different pear varieties on my list and never had
> fire blight or anything other than plum curcillo and stink bug
> damage. Now have 39 varieties as Ubllieen and Conference (as of fall
> )are now ashes feeding other trees.  Every year when it was dry and
> warm about half the leaves of these two would turn brown but it was
> not fire blight.  They would fall  off prematurely and had not
> produced any fruit.  They would look good in the spring (no blossoms)
> till about very late July and then start to get brown patches and
> slowly spread over the whole leaf.  I took some over to the State
> Experiment Station and they advised me to get them out as apparently
> are not suited for this area.  They determined it was not fire
> blight. I have no water system in the orchard and this is a hobby
> orchard, my play ground so to speak. Now I want to decorate it a
> little with red pears. Ray
> North East Wisc near Lake Michigan Zone 4-5
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