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["Lon J. Rombough" <lonrom@hevanet.com>]

Just had a letter from a man in Victoria, BC who asked for a fruit identification.  It was D. Lotus, and with a big crop.  He said it had one seed per fruit and was the only tree of the species around, but there were D. kaki trees nearby.  The D. lotus tree most likely was a rootstock that had sprouted after the D. kaki top had died.  
One complication is that in American, and sometimes in Kaki, female trees can produce limbs of male flowers.  Males don't usually produce limbs of female flowers, but under stress, some males have been found to produce perfect flowers.  
There is a lot more about this, but suffice it to say that some persimmons can set seedless fruit without males around, and some can produce their own male flowers.  
-Lon Rombough
Grapes, writing, consulting, my book, The Grape Grower, at http://www.bunchgrapes.com  Winner of the Garden Writers Association "Best Talent in Writing" award for 2003.
On Nov 17, 2005, at 9:53 AM, bassem@gardener.com wrote:

I've recently visited the Brooklyn Botanical Gardens. They have the date plum persimmon "D. Lotus". The tree was loaded with chocolated colored fruits, they were seedless and quite tasty. I've seen trees before here in pa, grown at Bob Seips farm. He has more than 1 tree all trees were loaded with marble size fruit, he has a variety named wild korean, but the fruits had more seeds than pulp. 
Does anyone have experience growing that persimmon? I'm trying to find out whether it's self-fertile or not. 
The tree that was planted alone produced seedless fruits, the one planted with other mates produced seeded fruits.

Bass Samaan
zone 6
Bethlehem, pa

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