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  • From: "Gordon Nofs" <gc_nofs@hotmail.com>
  • To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: RE: [NAFEX] Using two year wood as scion wood.
  • Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 13:13:54 -0500

I would say that the only difference I find in using 2 year or older scion wood is that it will usually blossom.

Gordon C. Nofs

Flint, MI.
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From: Jwlehman@aol.com
Reply-To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
To: sherwindu@comcast.net, nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: [NAFEX] Using two year wood as scion wood.
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 23:57:45 EST

I posed the problem of finding first year growth scion that was big enough to
graft.  Among my 14 trees of mostly apple and nplum, peach, apricot, and
cherry, I almost never find any first year growth of reasonable size.  Therefore,
what is the tradeoff between going to older wood to get the thicker scion?  I
have been told by some that
the buds in second and third year growth are not very active and that the
bark is thicker making line-up of the cambium layer more difficult for whip and
tongue.  If that is true, maybe I'm stuck with the thin scions.

                  Sherwin

Hi Sherwin,

Yes, I have grafted two year persimmon wood with good success. Make sure
there is a good bud. Because it is a secondary bud (two year wood), which is in
reserve in case the tip is injured, it will take longer to break out. Don't know
that I've ever used three year old wood. Yes, bark thickness between three
year wood and one year wood could cause a problem. Also any buds on three year
wood might be dead. I'd say it would work if the second and last year growth is
still on it. That would be a long scion piece, but I've grafted some long
material. Wrap with Parafilm M to lock in moisture while the secondary bud
figures out it has to start growing.

A few times just for experiment I've grafted wood w/o buds and had them take,
but greatly reduced percentage. They also take a very long time for an
adventitious bud to develop and break out.

I've done this with persimmon only, and may not work with hard woods such as
walnut & pecan. I suspect Malus and Prunus would work and Pyrus also.

Jerry Lehman

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