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[Jason MacArthur <rotread@localnet.com>]

Regarding the veneer/whip and tongue graft(Fackler, NAFEX digest Vol. 
12 issue 25) or the splice graft(Barret/Webber NAFEX digest vol. 12 
issue 14), described below, does this graft involve merely pulling back 
the bark, as I understand is done in a veneer graft(Garner), or do you 
actually cut a facet into the wood roughly the width of the whip cut on 
the scionwood? Why is the cut on the stock shorter than the cut on the 
whip?  Sorry to be so dense, but I'm having a hard time grasping this.  
Thank you all, Jason MacArthur

On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 15:05:59 +0000 "Ed Forest" <edforest55@hotmail.com>
writes:
> Sorry to give you a fifth option but I think it is the best of those 
> you
> listed. I often do this graft on tress that are bigger than the scions 
> and
> not conducive to even one- sided whip and tongue grafts but too small 
> to
> cleft or bark graft. Its a modification of the whip and tongue, very 
> simple
> and leaves a good strong union, stronger than a bark graft. I don'tknow
> what you call it and I have not seen any pictures of it.
> Cut the field stock off clean at the height you want the graft. Then 
> cut the
> scion as for a whip and tongue graft. On the stub on the field stock 
> make a
> cut that matches the scionwood but that, hmm, how do I explain this, 
> that is
> a only a little bit longer  than half the length of the whip cut you 
> made on
> the scion. (You don't cut all the way through the stock like another 
> scion,
> the top of the stub looks almost round but with one flat side like the
>
> inside of a keyed knob)  Notch it with a tongue just a little ways 
> down from
> the top of the stub, and then join the two together, wrap it with 
> rubber strips.
> I have done dozens of these grafts alongside cleft grafts, one-sided 
> whip
> and tongue grafts, and bark grafts and these give more takes and more
> strength. I don't know if I've explained it very well but does anyone
> know what this graft is called?
> Kevin Bradley