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- From: "Dr. Chiranjit Parmar" <parmarch@vsnl.com>
- To: "Mike Levine" <crunchy@oldweb.com>, "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Cc: "Lon J. Rombough" <lonrom@hevanet.com>, Mark Lee <markl@nytec.com>
- Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Raspberry seed offer and bananas
- Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 11:24:58 +0530
Mr. Mike Levine does not seem to be much
informed about sending and receiving post parcels containing live plant
material.
Banana suckers are not Rubus seeds that can just be
put in an envelope and sent by air mail by pasting a 50 cents stamp on
it.
The parcel of five banana suckers will not weigh
less than five kg in any case. The current postal rate in India
for SPEEDPOST parcel is US$17 per kg. Then there are
other costs too. These bananas (and other wild fruits such as Rubus
too) do not grow in my back yard. I have to go to field alongwith some
helper(I can not dig the suckers myself) and have to drive 15-20 km for
collecting such material.
My bank charges a fee of US$5 for clearing the
foreign checks upto 100 dollars even if the check is six dollars. It takes
8-10 weeks during clearing. Then some of
checks I receive from abroad bounce and I do not receive the payment.
Though this does not happen very frequently but it does happen a few times in a
year and I loose the money.
Though I am a fanatic promoter of these type of
fruits, yet I cannot afford to spend on this cause all from my
pocket. I am not that rich and have a also have a family to support.
So this activity has to be self sustaining financially.
100 dollars for forwarding was a very rough
estimate and might have been barely enough to cover the
postage.
Anyway, such controversies keep arising about my
offers once in a couple of years and do not bother me. I know there are
hundreds of NAFEXERS who are satisfied with my offers.
I am expected to attend NAFEX
Annual Meeting in 2004 and shall probably be offering my explanation on such
issues too.
In the meantime I shall request Mr. Mike Levine the
find out the postage for a 5 kg speedpost air mail parcel from his place in the
US and Mandi in HP in India and see how much profit was I going
to make.
Dr. Chiranjit Parmar
Horticultural Consultant on Lesser Known Indian Fruits www.lesserknownindianplants.com ----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Levine <mlevine@umich.edu>
To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2003 4:51 AM
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Raspberry seed offer and
bananas > > I once contacted Dr. Parmar about obtaining a hardy banana and he wrote > "I shall send the plant material free of cost but you will have to pay for > the forwarding which will be about 100 US dollars. > > But before that you will have to obtain an import peremit from the USDA as > any material sent without proper permit from here shall be destroyed by the > quarantine. So please try to get the USDA Yellow & Green Label." > > Is that a small price (coming all the way from India?) or is that > exhorbitant? I guess it depends how bad you want it. > To me it sounded like a little too much money and hassle so I dropped the > matter until now. > > Dr. Parmar did mention that he had sent a hardy banana to a NAFEX member in > the past and never heard any feedback from him. Anyone out there get a > banana from him? I'd be interested to try hear any feedback on it and maybe > try to convince you to send me one since it's already here in N. America. > > > Still wondering if there are blue raspberries out there somewhere... > > > Thanks, > Mike Levine > Ann Arbor, MI zone 5b > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lon J. Rombough" <lonrom@hevanet.com> > To: "NAFEX" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 2:07 PM > Subject: [NAFEX] Raspberry seed offer > > > > Recently there was a thread from someone looking for raspberries. In > the > > course of the discussion, Dr. Parmar from India offered material (seed, I > > believe) of a raspberry species from India. Someone else objected to the > > offer as a sort of commercialization. > > Since there are people on this list who are not members of NAFEX, it's > > worth pointing out that NAFEX has had a long tradition of an Exchange Page > > in it's journal, POMONA, in which members can make plant material > available > > for trade or for a small price, usually just about enough to pay for the > > postage and the member's time in sending it. > > In this case, it seemed that what Dr. Parmar was doing was in the same > > spirit as the Exchange Page, since he was hardly posting a huge ad or > > demanding an exhorbitant fee, and what he was offering was relevant to the > > thread to which it was connected. > > There are many members of NAFEX who have nurseries or large collections > > of certain species and I fail to see that there is any harm in them being > > allowed to make a modest mention of it. Certainly it's unobtrusive enough > > to note it in the signature. Most members have enough common sense to > know > > not to abuse the privalege, and we have a moderator for those rare > > individuals that do. > > -Lon Rombough > > _______________________________________________ > > nafex mailing list > > nafex@lists.ibiblio.org > > Most questions can be answered here: > > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex > > File attachments are accepted by this list; please do not send binary > files, plain text ONLY! > > Message archives are here: > > http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/nafex > > To view your user options go to: > > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/options/nafex/XXXX@XXXX (where XXXX@XXXX > is > > YOUR email address) > > NAFEX web site: http://www.nafex.org/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > nafex mailing list > nafex@lists.ibiblio.org > Most questions can be answered here: > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex > File attachments are accepted by this list; please do not send binary files, plain text ONLY! > Message archives are here: > http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/nafex > To view your user options go to: > http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/options/nafex/XXXX@XXXX (where XXXX@XXXX is > YOUR email address) > NAFEX web site: http://www.nafex.org/ > |
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[NAFEX] Raspberry seed offer,
Lon J. Rombough, 05/09/2003
- RE: [NAFEX] Raspberry seed offer, Mark Lee, 05/09/2003
- RE: [NAFEX] Raspberry seed offer, Bruce Hansen, 05/09/2003
- Re: [NAFEX] Raspberry seed offer, Greg or Marie Jordan, 05/09/2003
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Re: [NAFEX] Raspberry seed offer and bananas,
Mike Levine, 05/09/2003
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Re: [NAFEX] Raspberry seed offer and bananas,
Lon J. Rombough, 05/09/2003
- Re: [NAFEX] Raspberry seed offer and bananas, Mike Levine, 05/09/2003
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Re: [NAFEX] Raspberry seed offer and bananas,
Dr. Chiranjit Parmar, 05/11/2003
- [NAFEX] Banana banter, Mike Levine, 05/11/2003
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Re: [NAFEX] Raspberry seed offer and bananas,
Lon J. Rombough, 05/09/2003
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- RE: [NAFEX] Raspberry seed offer, tanis cuff, 05/09/2003
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