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["Mike Levine" <mlevine@umich.edu>]

Title: Re: [NAFEX] seed preparation help

I have to admit that a friend of mine bought an apricot as a wedding present from Southmeadow which to his dismay, never showed up, but I must say I've had good experiences ordering with Hartmann's.  Granted, they did get one order wrong, but when I called up to complain they didn't hesitate to ship out the correct material and to let me keep the material they mistakenly sent.  Thanks for the info though, I'll be careful ordering from them in the future.  Any recommendations on alternative places to order from nearby that have a comparable selection of plants?

 

Mike Levine

Ann Arbor, MI

----- Original Message -----

From: Lon J. Rombough

To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org

Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 8:09 PM

Subject: Re: [NAFEX] seed preparation help

I agree on the peat and on Southmeadow.  
   I bought from them years ago and though I got the stock, one apple had such a bad case of virus I pulled it.  But besides that, about six months after getting the order I got a nasty phone call from the nurseryman, Grootendorst, wanting to know why I hadn't paid.  I had the canceled check, so I ended that in a hurry.  But I found a lot of other people who reported the same thing,  There are at least three nurseries in the U.S. that are about that bad, if not worse.  One is Northwoods/One Green World which sends out all kinds of undersized, mislabled (deliberately in some cases) stock.  Another is Hartmann's, which is also money-driven and also sends out mislabled stuff.  Thats on the customer end.  On the business end, it's even worse.
   Sorry, one of my peeves is nurseries that cheat.  That's one reason I think so highly of Ed Fackle -he has always delivered quality stuff that's true to name and well tested.
=Lon Rombough

From: Thomas Olenio <tolenio@sentex.net>
Reply-To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:53:47 -0500
To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] seed preparation help

Hi,

I think Lon will tell you this too, but use slightly damp peat moss for stratification.  It
inhibits molds naturally.

Later,
Tom

Edgar Nutans wrote:

> Does anyone out there have practical experience with using mancozeb
> (Manzate) as a seed treatment for apples/ pears?
> I would like to stratify some seed without having them mold and I
> noticed that Manzate (which I have on hand) is labelled for seed
> treatment for some crops.  However, the recommended rate is "0.04-4.32
> pounds/ 100 lbs. of seed"!
> First of all that's quite a range and secondly, I only have a few dozen
> seed.  The Manzate I have is as a 37% solution.  Is the concentration
> all that critical or would anywhere within the recommended range work?
>
> On a completely unrelated topic, I thought I should warn any NAFEXers
> who may not have heard of the goings-on at Southmeadow Fruit Gardens.
>  They cashed a check of mine and never delivered the trees a couple of
> years ago.  I tried repeatedly to get them to send the trees by
> contacting them via email, letter and phone.  They always promised, but
> never delivered.  Since then, I have reported this problem with fellow
> fruit enthusiasts, the US Postal Service, the appropriate BBB and the
> State of Michigan Attorney General.  Many people have had the same thing
> happen.  Bottom line, unless you are ready to sue for your merchandise,
> don't order from them.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Edgrrrrr
>
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