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  • From: "Bruce Hansen" <brucehansen@ACD.NET>
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  • Subject: RE: [NAFEX] Apples for the Hawkes
  • Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 13:33:59 -0400

I don't think Albemarle Pippen and Yellow Newtown Pippen are the same apple.
It seems to me that Albemarle is a Virginia apple and of course Newtown is
from Newtown RI. Since they are both Pippens perhaps it is just geography.

Bruce

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[mailto:nafex-admin@lists.ibiblio.org]On Behalf Of Don Yellman
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 11:11 PM
To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: [NAFEX] Apples for the Hawkes


Gord:

Agree on Freedom, which has been a bust for me in flavor and in so many
other ways. On a one to ten scale for flavor, I would give it about a
three, just ahead of Ben Davis. In fact, I think I will take my 12 year
old Freedom out, and replace it with something that tastes good. It may
be resistant to scab, but not to anything else. I don't grow Liberty,
but have tasted them, and don't much like them either.

Have you considered Spartan? This is a Mac x Albemarle Pippin (aka
Yellow Newtown) cross, that has excellent scab resistance. It looks
like a slightly flattened Mac, and is a truly excellent table and
culinary apple. I know it is very popular in Vermont and upstate New
York, where is is used as a cider apple from unthinned orchards. But
when thinned, this apple becomes large and handsome. My wife, upon whom
I rely for unvarnished opinions, ate one the other day and remarked on
its excellent flavor and texture. I had widespread fireblight on the
apples this year, and Spartan was one of the few that came through
nearly unscathed. Spartan also shows signs of being a heavier cropper
than Freedom, by a factor of about six, and has a fine natural shape on
M7 rootstock. I plan to make one or two more copies of my Spartan;
maybe I just have an exceptionally good tree.

Empire also seems to require little in the way of spraying attention,
but does need a lot of thinning. It's a fine table apple, but, in my
judgment, not as good as the Spartan I am growing here. For sheer
productivity, it's pretty hard to beat Empire. It's a bit of a surprise
that either of them do so well for me, since I can't grow McIntosh at all.

I am growing out a Novaspy from a scion sent to me by Ed Fackler in
spring 2001, and will probably set it in the orchard late this fall.
Don't know much about it, or how it compares for flavor, but doubt that
Ed would have sent me a dud. That might be another one to look into.

Don Yellman, Great Falls, VA

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