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["Pete Benfield" <pete@cmpsource.com>]

Hi Lucky and Group
My pawpaw comments.
I was raised in South MS in the woods. Myself and brothers ate anything we
could in the woods. Never saw a pawpaw because there were none.
About a year ago I found that there are pawpaws growing north of Gulfport,
MS in the clay hills there. (not big hills) This is about 60 miles east of
where we were raised. These pawpaws are on very small trees and are about
thumb sized to hen egg sized. I tried eating a few soft ones and they were
really some sorry mess. All seeds with a little bitter slime to go with
them.
I have a couple plants here in South La. to try....saw a little blackish
flower on one before the little tree croaked. Got a few seedlings from seeds
ordered from Arkansas.(and a few other seedlings I ordered)
I have not had any luck with pawpaws but am still trying. I have asked many
oldtimers from this area...(south La....50 miles N of New Orleans...z 8b and
rural) about pawpaws, and no one has ever heard of them.
Thanks
Pete Benfield 8b
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There are 6 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: cranberry crabapple?
           From: Lucky Pittman <Lucky.Pittman@murraystate.edu>
      2. Re: Pawpaw
           From: Lucky Pittman <Lucky.Pittman@murraystate.edu>
      3. Re: cranberry crabapple?
           From: "Lon J. Rombough" <lonrom@hevanet.com>
      4. Pawpaw info
           From: nottke <nottke@ols.net>
      5. Re: NEW VIRUS ALERT
           From: "Gordon Nofs" <gc_nofs@hotmail.com>
      6. Obituary: H. R. Martin
           From: "Lon J. Rombough" <lonrom@hevanet.com>


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Message: 1
   Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 08:11:36 -0600
   From: Lucky Pittman <Lucky.Pittman@murraystate.edu>
Subject: Re: cranberry crabapple?

At 04:44 AM 01/08/2002 +0000, De. wrote:

>Just heard from Bob Purvis and he sent me this request.....
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>" Del, would you be willing to put out a request for the Cranberry
>Crabapple?

It's probably not the same, but Garfield Schults sent me a piece of
"Cranberry Crunch" a couple of years back.  I've got a small tree of it
growing, but it hasn't fruited yet, so I don't know anything about it, and
I don't recall Garfield giving any details about it.
Lucky Pittman
USDA Zone 6
Hopkinsville, KY



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Message: 2
   Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 08:26:19 -0600
   From: Lucky Pittman <Lucky.Pittman@murraystate.edu>
Subject: Re: Pawpaw

As a kid, roaming the woods & creeks of east-central Alabama, on the zone
7/8 interface, I never knowingly saw a pawpaw.  However, now that I know
what they are, I realize they were virtually everywhere throughout the
woods, along the little creeks, etc.
On my visits 'home', I still have yet to see an A.triloba with
fruit(they're present, I just never see any with fruit), but have seen a
couple of dwarf pawpaw, A.parviflora, on my parents' farm, one of
which(I've named it 'Trash Pile", due to it's location) is loaded with
fruit every year - they're all small, thumb-size, and mostly seed, but each
branch is festooned with numerous fruits, usually singles, distributed all
along their length.  I've never been there at the appropriate time of year
to sample a ripe fruit, so I can't comment on their flavor.  "Trash Pile"
is growing on top of a rocky red clay hill, in full sun, with no other
pawpaws within 100 yds, so it may(?) be self-fertile.  I've grafted it onto
A.triloba rootstock and have it growing here in KY, where it has survived
at least two zone 6 winters.
The local native A.triloba, here, have fruits which are usually, as Gordon
indicated, the size of one or two large to extra-large hen eggs, but there
are a few groves which routinely produce large fruits, the size of my fist,
or larger.  Can't say that I've been able to ascertain any appreciable
difference in fruit quality/taste between one pawpaw and another, though
I'm hoping some of my grafted selections and named-parentage seedlings will
prove that there IS a difference.
Lucky Pittman
USDA Zone 6
Hopkinsville, KY



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Message: 3
   Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 08:54:39 -0800
   From: "Lon J. Rombough" <lonrom@hevanet.com>
Subject: Re: cranberry crabapple?

"Cranberry Crunch" is one of Garfield Shults's own creations, not related to
Cranberry crab apple.  It's a "lunchbox" size fall apple, tart, but nicely
flavored.
-Lon Rombough
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>From: Lucky Pittman <Lucky.Pittman@murraystate.edu>
>To: nafex@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [nafex] cranberry crabapple?
>Date: Tue, Jan 8, 2002, 6:11 AM
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>At 04:44 AM 01/08/2002 +0000, De. wrote:
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>>Just heard from Bob Purvis and he sent me this request.....
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>>" Del, would you be willing to put out a request for the Cranberry
>>Crabapple?
>
>It's probably not the same, but Garfield Schults sent me a piece of
>"Cranberry Crunch" a couple of years back.  I've got a small tree of it
>growing, but it hasn't fruited yet, so I don't know anything about it, and
>I don't recall Garfield giving any details about it.
>Lucky Pittman
>USDA Zone 6
>Hopkinsville, KY
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Message: 4
   Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:30:34 -0400
   From: nottke <nottke@ols.net>
Subject: Pawpaw info

Those of you interested in pawpaws that have not visited the KYSU web site
might want to look it over
http://www.pawpaw.kysu.edu/

Jim Nottke
Pfafftown, NC 27040
nottke@ols.net




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Message: 5
   Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 16:59:30 -0500
   From: "Gordon Nofs" <gc_nofs@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: NEW VIRUS ALERT

There now is a virus out there that you do not have to open an attachment.
If you open the e-mail to it you got it.
   Gordon====================================


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From: Claude Jolicoeur <cjoli@gmc.ulaval.ca>
Reply-To: nafex@yahoogroups.com
To: nafex@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [nafex] NEW VIRUS ALERT
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 01:44:27 -0500

Lon and all others,
Actually, it is quite simple...
NEVER open ANY attachment unless you know the sender, and he mentions
explicitely something about the attachment in his message. Also, the text
in the message should make sense considering the person who sent the
message and the subject. Also, your name should be mentioned in the message
- virus are still too stupid to know your name.

File extensions may give you indications also. The most suspect extensions
are: .exe, .com, .bat, .lnk, .pif, .doc

In doubt, send a reply to the sender asking him if he sent you an
attachment. Just follow this simple rule, it is the best insurance against
virus - much easier in fact than hasseling with anti-virus software.

Oh, and if you send an attachment to someone, please do say so in your
message - like: "Dear Lon, here is a nice picture of an apple that grows in
my neighbour's yard..."

Claude

A 20:54 02.01.07 -0800, vous avez écrit :
 >Below is a copy of the text that came with two attachments that are almost
 >certainly VIRUS.  The text is written to sound like a business letter, but
 >if you notice, it doesn't really say anything.
 >I have a Mac, so I can't test the attachments, but one of
 >them is a .bat attachment and every .bat attachment I've seen has been
part
 >of a virus.  The other attachment is a .doc
 >DON'T OPEN ANYTHING THAT RESEMBLES THE
 >LETTER BELOW.





Gordon C. Nofs
Flint, Michigan
gc_nofs@hotmail.com


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Message: 6
   Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 19:48:20 -0800
   From: "Lon J. Rombough" <lonrom@hevanet.com>
Subject: Obituary: H. R. Martin

I was very saddened to learn of the passing Monday, Jan. 7, of H. R. Martin
of Hopkinsville, KY.
     A retired Ag. inspector, H.R. took up fruit exploring and breeding in
earnest in his retirement and created some very interesting grape
varieties..
 Besides a cross of S. 9110 x Concord that he spoke highly of, he had some
Vitis aestivalis hybrid seedlings, several of which seemed very promising
when he sent me fruit samples this year.  Some were pure flavored, vinous,
with no off flavors, and one that was aestivalis x Muscat Hamburg was
excellent in flavor and had over 22 Brix, though the berries were small.
    Hopefully, his material can be saved, and at least one man in the area
said he would approach the family about it.
-Lon Rombough


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