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["Lon J. Rombough" <lonrom@hevanet.com>]

There is confusion.  I've seen a distinctly separate species that has yellow
fruit, but R. odoratum has a yellow fruited form. Perhaps the yellow fruited
R. odoratum is the result of natural crosses between the two species.  
Crandall will vary because in the 1800's it was considered acceptible to
grow seedlings of Crandall and sell them as Crandall, too.  Undoubtedly the
"Crandall" out there represents more than one seedling. 
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>From: Thomas Olenio <tolenio@sentex.net>
>To: <nafex@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [nafex] Crandall - Buffalo Currant
>Date: Sun, Nov 18, 2001, 8:30 PM
>

>Hi Lon,
>
>I am confused...  Nothing new there.
>
>In searching for other named varieties in the Crandall family (Ribes
>odoratum) I found this;
>
>(excerpt)
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>www.agric.gov.ab.ca/agdex/200/3602001.html
>Albol currant
>
>The albol currant (Ribes aureum "Albol") is frequently grown as an
>ornamental, and its value as a fruiting shrub is often overlooked.
>Albol is also commonly known as the Missouri, Colorado, California, Golden
>Flowering Clove or Cross Currant. The shrubs reach a height of 1 to 2.5 m.
>The fruit is good for canning, jam, pies and wine.  Crandall and Black
>Giant are the named varieties available from many Alberta nurseries. Albol
>currants tolerate hot, dry weather and are well-adapted to Alberta
>conditions.
>------------
>(end excerpt"
>
>Has the name "Crandall" been used for multiple currant varieties?  I am
>not questioning what you have stated, just confused over the usage of
>the variety name Crandall for both Ribes aureum and Ribes odoratum.
>
>It makes it very confusing when searching out other selections in the same
>family.
>
>Thanks for any opinion you can offer.
>
>Regards,
>Tom
>
>--
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>On Sun, 18 Nov 2001, Lon J. Rombough wrote:
>
>> Buffalo Currant is Ribes odoratum, the same species as Crandall.  Other
>> selections were made, but Crandall was the one that seems to have stayed
>> in
>> commerce.  I once knew a fellow in S. Dakota who had selected forms of
>> the
>> species with golden fruit that he said had flavors of pineapple and other
>> fruits.  He passed on and his material was lost, though I got one golden
>> fruited bush.  However, it's a flop compared to Crandall.  It gets what
>> looks like pseudomonas in the blossoms and never sets, while Crandall
>> sets
>> perfectly.  So there is more material of the species to be explored, if
>> someone wants to look for it.
>>     I once visited Ft. Collins, CO and saw Ribes odoratum growing wild,
>> to
>> the point of being a weed in some yards, and the fruit was  as good as
>> Crandall.  So there are more good ones out there.  I'd look for good ones
>> in
>> areas where summer rainfall and humidity is regular so the plants would
>> have
>> more disease resistance.  Ones from SD probably come from areas where
>> summer
>> is too dry, so they haven't had to evolve disease resistance.
>> -Lon Rombough
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>> >From: Thomas Olenio <tolenio@sentex.net>
>> >To: <nafex@yahoogroups.com>
>> >Subject: [nafex] Crandall - Buffalo Currant
>> >Date: Sun, Nov 18, 2001, 12:43 PM
>> >
>>
>> >Hello,
>> >
>> >I have read that the Crandall is more closely related to the buffalo
>> >currant than any other.  Are there other varieties in this family that
>> >exceed the Crandall?
>> >
>> >Thank you.
>> >
>> >Regards,
>> >Tom
>> >
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