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["Gordon Nofs" <gc_nofs@hotmail.com>]

Ginda
  Are you overlapping you rubber strips? You have to have them streached 
tight enough, and overlap on each wind. Are you using the 3/8 X 8 inch 
rubbers. The small ones to me are useless.
        Gordon
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----Original Message Follows----
From: Ginda Fisher <ginda@concentric.net>
Reply-To: nafex@yahoogroups.com
To: nafex@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [nafex] parafilm results
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 14:28:08 -0400

I think budding rubbers do not protect the scion adequately without an
outer wrapper.  Last year I did dozens of grafts.  Some with just
budding rubbers, some rubber covered with masking tape, some rubber
covered with grafting wax, and some just masking tape.  I had better
than 90% take on all the grafts EXCEPT the budding rubber only ones.
Every one of these grafts dried up and died.

Bud grafting may need less protection that tongue & whip type grafting.
I haven't tried that yet.

Ginda Fisher

dwalsh/wchase wrote:
 >
 > Mark,
 >
 > If you are tying the scionwood and r/s together with budding rubbers, you 
don't
 > need parafilm.
 >
 > I think those using parafilm use it instead of rubbers.
 >
 > Mail delivery scionwood and mail delivery rootstocks, if in poor 
condition would
 > certainlybcontibute to your lack of success.
 >
 > Why not check out the West Cascade Fruit Society centered in Seattle? 
They have an
 > Annual Meeting in Puyallup or thereabouts each year and sell rootstocks 
and
 > scionwood and other grafting supplies.
 >
 > The WCFS also has a really good Fall Fruit Show. Last year it was in 
Tukwila.
 >
 > The last newsletter I can find is Fall 2000 ... Evelyn Troughton has been 
the
 > newsletter editor for years, her email address is   etroughton@juno.com   
she will
 > direct you to the current Executive.
 >
 > If you don't get a response, email me privately and I'll give you some 
addresses
 > other members of 2000 Executive.
 >
 > Cheers,
 >
 > Derry
 >
 > Derry Walsh & Bill Chase  email:wchase@interchange.ubc.ca
 > Aldergrove,  B. C.,  Canada
 > phone/fax (604) 856-9316
 > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
 > Home web page  http://www.interchange.ubc.ca/wchase/HTML
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 > ----- Original Message -----
 > From: "Mark Lee" <piper3@uswest.net>
 > To: <nafex@yahoogroups.com>
 > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 7:51 AM
 > Subject: [nafex] parafilm results
 >
 > : I have used electrical tape for many years when doing grafts of
 > : apple.  I would typically have 80% of the grafts take.  One problem
 > : with the tape is when it is removed, the adhesive stick too well to
 > : the bark, and strips off a chuck of bark from the graft, killing it.
 > : When I leave the tape on, it girdles the branch and restricts
 > : development.  Two seasons ago I started using parafilm.  I hold the
 > : grafts together with budding rubbers and cover them with a single
 > : layer of parafilm.  Parafilm is easy to put on, and since it has no
 > : adhesive, it is easy to remove, eliminating my tape-related
 > : problems.  I did 10 grafts last year, with about 3 taking but
 > : eventually drying out.  This year I did 30 grafts, with about 5
 > : taking, but these too look like they will dry out and die also.  With
 > : parafilm it looks like I will have no success with 40 grafts over 2
 > : seasons.
 > :
 > : Two things other than parafilm changed in the last two seasons, so
 > : parafilm may not be the cause of my failure.  Change #1: All of my
 > : scionwood was obtained through the mail, while previously I got the
 > : wood fresh locally.  Change #2: The rootstock was obtained through
 > : the mail, and the roots were not very abundant.  The roots planted
 > : this year are putting out lots of leaves below the graft, but above
 > : the graft are dried scionwood.
 > :
 > : For those of you having success with parafilm, any advice for me?
 > : Any suggestions or comments?
 > : Thanks,
 > : Mark Lee in Seattle
 > :
 > :
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