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["Christopher Mauchline" <mauch1@aol.com>]

Another posibility, although I hesitate to suggest it is the 
multifloral rose.  If I remember correctly it was originally brought 
here for "living fences".  The bushes can get huge - 12x12'

I hesitate to suggest it is I don't know if its in Canada.  Its 
considered a noxious weed here now (at least in Kansas): 
http://www.ink.org/public/kda/phealth/phprot/mrose.html

It has really nasty thorns.  In looking at the link for Osage Orange 
the thorn looked painful, but not nearly as bad as either hawthorn or 
multifloral rose.

Tom, no matter what you choose, how are you going to get the plants 
established (and sizeable enough to prevent entry) before these "fun 
seekers" run them over and kill them with their vehicles?

How about multifloral rose, hawthorn, Osage Orange *and* poison ivy + 
poison sumac planted all together?  (I have no patience or tolerance 
for vandals).

Chris Mauchline
SE PA, zone 6

--- In nafex@y..., Thomas Olenio <tolenio@s...> wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> I would like some "living fence" ideas, to keep out unwanted ATV's, 
ATC's
> and dirt bikes.
> 
> The gap is about 50' wide, under a bridge, running east west, so 
there is
> plenty of sun except under the bridge.
> 
> People with no respect for property cut the fence under the bridge
> regardless of there being cattle in the field, to get there fill of 
fun on
> their machines in the pasture, destroying the grass the cattle feed 
on,
> and presenting a legal injury problem.
> 
> At first I liked poison ivy and those sorts of things, but that may 
be too
> cruel for even these people.
> 
> Any suggestions on a very cruel, thornded, fast growing 
plant/shrub/cane 
> that will (over time) fill the gap 50' on the south side, and grow 
under
> the bridge?
> 
> I still like the poison ivy, poison oak, and poison sumac approach, 
but
> part of me says not to do it.  But i am sure there is no law against
> planting such things on your own property. (evil grin)
> 
> Under the bridge is also a haven for kids doing drugs, and I want 
to kill
> that idea too.  There must be some good choices to make that a 
nasty place
> to pass through, or be in.
> 
> Even thought of keeping a fresh dead skunk under there.
> 
> Hardiness zone 6a, southwest Ontario, spring flooding, damp/dry all
> summer, full south sun, shaded under bridge structure.
> 
> Cuttings appreciated!  (of nasty thorned plants [smile])  Father 
inlaw is
> getting tired of replacing the fence and chasing cattle at age 75.
> Thought I could help with a living fence to protect the strands of 
barbed
> wire that cover the gap and run over the water, keeping the cattle 
in and
> forming a river gate.
> 
> Thanks,
> Tom
> 
> --
> Thomas Olenio
> Ontario, Hardiness Zone 6a


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