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[Naomi Ann Counides <beefalo@rmci.net>]

It sure does help.  I have a Karmine  also and it is very disappointing.  It 
gets sunburned
badly.  I keep hoping the tree will fill in and protect the fruit but it has 
had fruit for
three years now and the problem remains.  Idaho can get right warm in summer. 
 Last year
there was a bit of 115 degree weather.  That is unusual but 100 is not. We 
also have very
strong and direct sun.  People around here often have to have skin cancers  
removed.  I am
thinking that the Karmine may have been a poor choice here.  I also have 
Keepsake (does very
well),
Calville (just started bearing and I love it. Fabulous cooker! Awesome baked 
apples!)
                What other stars are there in the cooking apple world?
I want a "Lords Seedling"  tree or wood.  Will it do well here?  Winter can 
go down to -25
(very unusual), -5 is more normal.  We are Zone 6.
Naomi Counides
Associated Beefalo of Idaho

Ed & Pat Fackler wrote:

> Naomi Ann Counides wrote:
>
> > I am not sure that  alkaline soil is the whole answer.  I have alkaline 
> > soil and
> > water. My Cox is a real pest.  Wants to split, drop, everything.  Maybe 
> > we are too
> > hot, 100+ in the summer? Irrigation no rain.
>
>      My response--------
>
>      Naomi, you've made an excellent observation.  Also, you should know 
> that even in
> alkaline soils, calicum can, and is likely to be deficient.  While ca. is 
> noted for
> influencing ph, like most everything other nutrient, it too is influenced 
> by existing
> ph.
>
>      You may want to try pellitized ca. which is a very efficient form of 
> ca. carbonate
> (burn-lime, I believe).  It may sprinkled around the dripline of existing 
> trees at 1/8"
> lb per tree year of age (rough or est. rate).
>
>      Also, as you've mentioned above and Derry alluded to it, Cox is very 
> subject to
> extreme heat, as are many of its sibs (Karminjn, Fiesta, Kidd's Orange, 
> etc.).  The only
> Cox sibs that I'm aware of which do well in warmer districts are (by order 
> of
> preference), Suncrisp, Rubinette, Laxton's Fortune, Freyberg and of course, 
> Gala.
>
>      Lastly, Derry made a very accurate observation re: influence of 
> rootstock on ca.
> uptake.
>
>      Hope this helps.
>
> Ed, So. Indiana, Heaven
>
> >  Zone 6 Idaho
> > Naomi
> >
> > dwalsh/wchase wrote:
> >
> > > Richard,
> > >
> > > Cox's Orange does not grow well here. Our soils are too acid ... Cox's 
> > > really is a
> > > limey tree.
> > >
> > > I dump dolomite lime on my CO 2 x year and get quite a good crop.
> > >
> > > Oh, yes, they are very vulnerable to that killer of young apple trees, 
> > > anthracnose
> > > canker.  Mine have survived because they are sheltered for most of the 
> > > year.
> > >
> > > I've had better success with a CO cross named Fiesta, BUT Fiesta needs 
> > > heavy
> > > thinning and drops early.  Fiesta's flavour is very Cox-like and it 
> > > looks better
> > > and stores better... well into March.
> > >
> > > Derry
> > >
> > > Derry Walsh & Bill Chase  email:wchase@interchange.ubc.ca
> > > Aldergrove,  B. C.,  Canada
> > > phone/fax (604) 856-9316
> > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> > > Home web page  http://www.interchange.ubc.ca/wchase/HTML
> > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> > >
> > > : Derry,
> > > : Can you grow them there, or do you have to "import' them?  Had my 
> > > first
> > > : cropping of them here (Maine) this year, and they were superb!
> > > : Richard
> > >
> >
>


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