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>From: nafex@egroups.com
>To: nafex@egroups.com
>Subject: [nafex] Digest Number 463
>Date: Sat, Sep 9, 2000, 3:09 AM
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> There are 5 messages in this issue.
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> Topics in this digest:
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>       1. progress reports on Dr. Jerry Brown
>            From: Lucky Pittman <Lucky.Pittman@murraystate.edu>
>       2. Jimson weed
>            From: "Kathleen Meigs" <kmeigs@tcsn.net>
>       3. Jimson Weed
>            From: LONGDISTSHTR <longdistshtr@shtc.net>
>       4. Re: Jimson Weed
>            From: Lucky Pittman <Lucky.Pittman@murraystate.edu>
>       5. Jimson weed
>            From: Carolyn Wood <natvwine@cut.net>
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> Message: 1
>    Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 13:21:22 -0500
>    From: Lucky Pittman <Lucky.Pittman@murraystate.edu>
> Subject: progress reports on Dr. Jerry Brown
>
> I had not been aware of this, but Harold Martin, a long-time NAFEX member
> here in town, called me recently to inform me that Dr. Jerry Brown, one of
> the UK(U.of KY) Extension fruit specialists at the Princeton experiment
> station had experienced a spinal injury sustained in a bicycle accident.
>
> The UK Fruit Facts online newsletters (Aug & Sept 2000) contain info on Dr.
> Brown's condition and where he may be contacted if any NAFEX members might
> wish to convey their hopes for a speedy and complete recovery.
>
> http://www.ca.uky.edu/HLA/fruitfact
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> Lucky Pittman
> USDA Zone 6
> Hopkinsville, KY
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> Message: 2
>    Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 13:08:16 -0700
>    From: "Kathleen Meigs" <kmeigs@tcsn.net>
> Subject: Jimson weed
>
> Jimson weed, called momoy, was used by the native people of my region of
> coastal southern California, the Chumash, for religious purposes. It  looks
> like Georgia O'keefe's famous beautiful paintings of the flowers. It is
> hightly toxic, though some of my high school classmates survived (barely)
> ingesting it for its hallucinogenic effects. The Chumash shamans studied
> for years which roots to pick, how to grind and dilute them, and administer
> them to youths undergoing puberty initiation. People got visions of their
> "dream helpers" if they were lucky, sort ot guardian spirits that gave them
> extra power. No one but a shaman would mess with it and youths didn't go
> off and do it on their own. Shamans took it more often and so got very
powerful.
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> Katy Meigs
> Jolon at Last Farm
> Central California
> USDA Zone 8/9
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> Message: 3
>    Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 17:02:12 -0400
>    From: LONGDISTSHTR <longdistshtr@shtc.net>
> Subject: Jimson Weed
>
> Interesting info Kathleen. We are talking about Datura stramonium,
> sometimes called "Thorn Apple" in the mountains of NC, aren't we?
> Lucky covered the animal effects recently. Some kids tried some a few
> years ago trying to see God and I was told they succeeded. Atropine and
> related alkaloids do weird things to the human nervous system. Think
> Jack Daniels Tennesee Old Number 7 is enough for me. Doc Lisenby Zone
> 7-8
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> Message: 4
>    Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 16:12:51 -0500
>    From: Lucky Pittman <Lucky.Pittman@murraystate.edu>
> Subject: Re: Jimson Weed
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> At 05:02 PM 09/08/2000 -0400, Doc L wrote:
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>>  We are talking about Datura stramonium,
>>sometimes called "Thorn Apple" in the mountains of NC, aren't we?
> Hey, Doc,  I've even known some folks what calls 'em "prickly pear", though
> to me, that's a cactus.
>
>>Think Jack Daniels Tennesee Old Number 7 is enough for me.
>   Set 'em up, Joe.
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> Message: 5
>    Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 15:56:02 -0600
>    From: Carolyn Wood <natvwine@cut.net>
> Subject: Jimson weed
>
> Just a sidenote on Jimson weed; while it is toxic to take internally, it
> was at one time used very effectively to alleviate the symptoms of
> asthma and/or bronchial spasms. It was the principle ingredient of
> "Asthma Powders" widely used in the last century (the other ingredient
> being saltpeter) and the dried leaves of the plant have been smoked in
> combination with other plants by native americans for many centuries
> without any hallucinogenic effects.
>
> Bob in Utah
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