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[pennbo@verizon.net]

 I agree with most of what you have to say. We have one 84year old member who couldn't walk a long section but is valuable in the saddle and several others whose length of time riding the local wilderness makes them absolutely invaluable resources! However the way our structure on call-outs is the ops/plans/ICS may not know our unit and individual restrictions or capabilities nor the terrain we are being asked to search. So the "safe, efficient, successful" part must come from within our own unit. Deciding when, and HOW, to tell a member that you do not think they should search with you can be difficult at the best of times.

AND just because someone disagrees with you Irv doesn't necessarily and automatically mean they are "ignorant of the basic principles of volunteer emergency service." :-) It means they may have a different level of experience or have experience in a different locale or may simply just have a different opinion than you! ALL are valued in SAR.

Chris

We can accommodate almost any skill or capability level in the field.  It is up to the plans or ops section chief to ensure that the proper resources are assigned to tasks that must be done so that searcher is safe, efficient, and possibly successful in locating the subject.  If you think you are a competent searcher and cannot accommodate a rider who prefers a different style or equipment you are still ignorant of the basic principles of volunteer emergency service.

 

Irv Lichtenstein

 

 

From: msar-riders-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:msar-riders-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Richard Lynch
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 5:49 AM
To: Mounted search and rescue
Subject: Re: [MSAR] Side Saddle Questions

 

It is not what the rider prefers, it is what is appropriate for SAR. The real question is: are you performing SAR or out for a glorified trail ride?   Jackie Kennedy was dignified and rode astride!!  If someone is injured to the extent that they can only ride side-saddle, they have no business in the field where a life may hang in the balance.  If you want to wear a dress and top hat and look like a Victorian Lady, fine but, it has no place in SAR.  Aren't there more important things to discuss?  

 

I have a feeling the American Side Saddle Association is a little biased.

 

With that said, I personally think that it certainly has its place among the various styles of riding, just not in SAR.  

 

Dick

 

 

 

On May 24, 2013, at 5:04 PM, irvin lichtenstein wrote:

There should be no difference for a rider who prefers sidesaddle either because of training and culture or because of injury (to the hips or pelvis would be first thought) precluding the astride position.  Females have ridden side saddle for centuries and have ridden to hunt and stadium jump. I have met several ladies who consider it undignified  to ride astride as they took 4-5 foot fences.

The basic question is whether they can stay mounted, dismount and remount in the field.  Ill fitting tack ruins everybody’s day.

Irv Lichtenstein

pennbo@verizon.net wrote:

Interesting. Can someone help explain what type of injury would make riding astride uncomfortable but would still allow side-saddle riding and the amount of hiking, climbing, lifting, etc we are sometimes called upon to do? I'm not being critical nor am I being facetious. Print is hard. I am truly curious as every year when we update our standards and requirements I like to have a broad mind that will include many possibilities. However if I submit an idea without the necessary facts to back it up it's an exercise in futility!

Thanks,
Chris 

 

 

On 05/23/13, T'mi Finkle<tfinkle@erols.com> wrote:

 

 

Thanks J- I am wondering if anyone will address, the age of most side saddles, could the lack of  mounting and dismounting be an issue on the off-side and how a poor fitting saddle will injure a horse's back

deployment

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T'mi

 

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Subject: Re: [MSAR] Side Saddle Questions

Humm, that's a good question T'mi'.  Something to think about.  It will be interesting to read any responses.

J.

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Does any MSAR Team approve the use of a Side-Saddle for MSAR training, and/or missions?  If so, does anyone have any safety concerns using a side-saddle for MSAR personnel?

 

T'mi

www.trotsar.org

 

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