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- From: "Irvin Lichtenstein " <ilichten1@verizon.net>
- To: "'Mounted search and rescue'" <msar-riders@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [MSAR] Insurance
- Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 09:57:08 -0400
The medical insurance or comp is always
expensive. The self insurance trust in this area (7 townships) starts at
$5000 per year per fire company for comp, and they don’t pay
claims. The minimum on duty Accidental Death and Disability from VFIS is
also around $5000 per year, assuming you sign for 3 years. If SAR really
transitions to the Health Department we will lose our statutory coverage.
Another question which has come up is even though we are emergency responders we
do not do fire suppression and the feds are questioning PSODB for non-fire
suppression incidents or personnel. They are not paying for juniors or
apprentices because they are not allowed into burning buildings and are trying
to duck claims for special fire police hit by cars at fire scenes. It depends on whether your members have
other medical insurance coverage. Also, are you an employee of the agency
that requests you? If so you are automatically covered under their comp because
subcontractors have to be in most states. EMAC creates a problem however.
In PA the in-state EMAC statute requires the requesting agency to provide
liability and the responding agency to provide comp. This is further
complicated because the comp law allows the carrier to subrogate the claim to
the requesting government. In PA volunteers are employees of the township where
the incident is or the organization is resident and we use that clause to claim
coverage. Everybody is always in a fund raising
mode, even the fire company I belong to which receives a dedicated real estate
tax fund is always raising funds. Irv Lichtenstein From:
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[MSAR] Insurance,
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Re: [MSAR] Insurance,
Irvin Lichtenstein , 06/23/2010
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Re: [MSAR] Insurance,
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Re: [MSAR] Insurance,
Marie Lester, 06/23/2010
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Re: [MSAR] Insurance,
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- Re: [MSAR] Insurance, Irvin Lichtenstein , 06/23/2010
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Re: [MSAR] Insurance,
Una Smith, 06/23/2010
- Re: [MSAR] Insurance, Irvin Lichtenstein , 06/23/2010
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Re: [MSAR] Insurance,
boddyrs, 06/23/2010
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Re: [MSAR] Insurance,
Marie Lester, 06/23/2010
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Re: [MSAR] Insurance,
T'mi Finkle, 06/23/2010
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Re: [MSAR] Insurance,
Irvin Lichtenstein , 06/23/2010
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