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- From: "Robert Boddy" <boddyrs@comcast.net>
- To: "'Mounted search and rescue'" <msar-riders@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [MSAR] search strategies for mounted SAR
- Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 11:06:01 -0400
On a tangent from this thread… Does someone have a document that has the intervals between
riders for a line/grid search? Thanks, Bob From: msar-riders-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:msar-riders-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of T'mi Finkle Well said Irv. Being flexible and deploying as trained is the key
to success for any MSAR team. As more and more of our mission deployments involve mixed use
areas, we have expanded our SAR/MSAR training, protocols and lessons learned to
meet those needs. During a recent search in Roanoke Virginia that lasted
several days; our team members were exposed to high density housing areas, busy
city streets and alley ways, warehouse districts, train yards as well as going
into 50K acres of the GW National Forest/Blue Ridge Parkway, which created a
mission where we needed to be very flexible. As an example, we never
deploy one of our team member’s solo without another validated public safety
equine resource with them. However, our SOP’s does allow one team member
to be part of a police mounted team or deploy with mounted rangers, which is
what occurred in Roanoke, VA. Generally we deploy our team members in
pairs, but depending on the incident and location we have had as many as a 4
persons/horses as a field team. Other items that should enhance the professionalism of an MSAR team
is to document all trainings and maintain a record of all after action reports,
also have your team take part in multi discipline/multi resource SAR FSE’s and
FE’s. Doing so will help provide substance to your team’s best practices and
lessons learned portfolio. There are several states and local jurisdictions
that already have established MSAR standards (many of those standards are available
online). Providing MSAR educational material to search mangers and IC’s
before a search happens will also help insure that proper MSAR tasks are
included within a mission’s IAP. T’mi www.trotsar.org From:
msar-riders-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:msar-riders-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Irvin Lichtenstein
Search strategies are described in most search management texts:
hasty and area can be worked from horseback, containment patrols also apply.
Trail blocks may need horse access but as there is no movement anybody can do
that. There is no significant difference in strategies whether on foot,
with dog, or on horseback. Hasty search is conducted to rapidly clear an area and detect clues
leading to direction of travel. Assuming that the subject is really
missing (bastard search to verify that) the hasty team(s) advance from a point
last seen or known (such as a parked vehicle, campsite, trailhead log book)
along trails or similar easy routes looking for clues that indicate the subject
passed by (easy to see footprints, equipment left behind, garbage, etc).
The horse provides a better vantage point, faster travel, and sensory
fusion beyond that of an air scent dog. A 3 person team is advised with
the most experienced in the center and the partners in a flanking
position. The lead should be a tracker or clue aware searcher, the flanks
carry navigation, communications, first aid, and other gear. One of the
team should have local terrain knowledge. Dogs are worked the same way. Area search involves a team working a large area alone, as opposed
to a grid search, which allows the horses’ senses to operate and detect
anomalies which can be the subject or clues to the subject. Again, dogs are
often worked in this manner. Containment involves constructing a barrier around the search area
which is then manned to detect if the subject crosses the barrier or to
“capture” the subject as he crosses the barrier. In the East these
boundaries are often roads or highways and the containment is effected by road
patrols or stationary vehicles serving as trail blocks In the West these may be
trails and the patrols are on horseback. Anywhere the boundary may be a
waterway and patrolled by boat. These techniques, strategies, or tactics, are described in manuals
that operations and plans section leaders are supposed to use to carry out
their duties. They constitute “best practice” and do not belong in a SOG except
perhaps as a reference to the search management course your organization
recognizes. Never adopt a fixed method as a standard protocol or
procedure. Protocols and procedures have to be followed, even if they are
contraindicated, because the definition of a SOP is mandatory adherence.
A SOG is a guideline and deviation from a guideline is permitted if
documented. Best practice is what lawyers point to as some expert’s
answer to a problem that usually works. Your job is to prove that your
idea worked better, or would have worked better. Here is an example of SOP stupidity: Your SOP calls for a hasty
search as the first operation after arrival and is to be a 4 hour task.
While you are en-route a FLIR equipped aircraft detects the subject who is only
accessible by horseback. It is a violation of your SOP not to conduct a
hasty search, which is not needed because the subject has been located.
Do you break the rules? Or do you write your rules to be flexible? Please give your affiliation when posting so we may know where you
are, as well as who you are. Irvin Lichtenstein Chief of Operations SE PA SAR On
Behalf Of sarcrna@aol.com
Thanks, Susan Martinez |
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[MSAR] search strategies for mounted SAR,
sarcrna, 05/02/2010
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Re: [MSAR] search strategies for mounted SAR,
Irvin Lichtenstein , 05/02/2010
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Re: [MSAR] search strategies for mounted SAR,
T'mi Finkle, 05/03/2010
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Re: [MSAR] search strategies for mounted SAR,
Robert Boddy, 05/03/2010
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Re: [MSAR] search strategies for mounted SAR,
Irvin Lichtenstein , 05/03/2010
- Re: [MSAR] search strategies for mounted SAR, Una Smith, 05/03/2010
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Re: [MSAR] search strategies for mounted SAR,
Irvin Lichtenstein , 05/03/2010
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Re: [MSAR] search strategies for mounted SAR,
Robert Boddy, 05/03/2010
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Re: [MSAR] search strategies for mounted SAR,
T'mi Finkle, 05/03/2010
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Re: [MSAR] search strategies for mounted SAR,
Jorene Downs, 05/03/2010
- Re: [MSAR] search strategies for mounted SAR, E.S., 05/03/2010
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Re: [MSAR] search strategies for mounted SAR,
Irvin Lichtenstein , 05/03/2010
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Re: [MSAR] search strategies for mounted SAR,
Jorene Downs, 05/03/2010
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Re: [MSAR] search strategies for mounted SAR,
Irvin Lichtenstein , 05/04/2010
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Re: [MSAR] search strategies for mounted SAR,
Una Smith, 05/04/2010
- Re: [MSAR] search strategies for mounted SAR, boddyrs, 05/04/2010
- Re: [MSAR] search strategies for mounted SAR, Marie Lester, 05/04/2010
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Re: [MSAR] search strategies for mounted SAR,
Una Smith, 05/04/2010
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Re: [MSAR] search strategies for mounted SAR,
Irvin Lichtenstein , 05/04/2010
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Re: [MSAR] search strategies for mounted SAR,
Jorene Downs, 05/03/2010
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