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Re: [MSAR] Response on Civil Air Patrol and (horse) mounted search and rescue
- From: "IRVIN LICHTENSTEIN" <ilichten1@verizon.net>
- To: "'Mounted search and rescue'" <msar-riders@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [MSAR] Response on Civil Air Patrol and (horse) mounted search and rescue
- Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:34:24 -0500
When the PA Wing joined the PA state
council there had to be an MOU executed/amended between the Wing and the state
EMA to change the request chain. The CAP is a federal level resource and
therefore the requests had to be bucked up the chain fairly high to get
assistance on an ongoing case that did not involve a missing aircraft or an ELT
which was legally their original jurisdiction. This was because the IC would
request added resources directly at the county level rather than at the state
level. We also found that while cadets did ground
SAR they would not be dispatched for suicides, or known body recoveries. I hear
that aircraft availability has improved but we are in an area that has so many
police, aeromedical, and even military aircraft available, as well as satellite
imagery that we rarely can’t get a properly equipped search aircraft
faster than we can an answer back for a request. This is unusual and is probably
just geography. [There are 5 aeromedical, 2 FLIR equipped city police, the PA,
NJ, DE, and even MD State Police units, an Army Reserve Helicopter Battalion, Navy
and Marine reserve HS and HL units (although they are going away), and
the USCG HH65’s at Cape May, NJ, and HH60’s at Roosevelt
Field]. There are full time active Air Force bases at As with any resource that belongs to
somebody else you must seek out the command and control structure and reach an
agreement as to how you talk to each other. Airplanes use civilian air traffic control
VHF (120-150 MHZ USB) and the CAP also used converted 2M FM gear, none of which
is common to public safety agencies except in their aircraft. Dispatch
and response agreements, who is in charge agreements must also be worked out. Irv Lichtenstein From:
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[mailto:msar-riders-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of ALLEN SNYDER |
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[MSAR] Civil Air Patrol and (horse) mounted search and rescue,
MSAR, 07/06/2007
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Re: [MSAR] Civil Air Patrol and (horse) mounted search and rescue,
ALLEN SNYDER, 07/06/2007
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Re: [MSAR] Civil Air Patrol and (horse) mounted search and rescue,
MSAR, 07/06/2007
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Re: [MSAR] Response on Civil Air Patrol and (horse) mounted search and rescue,
ALLEN SNYDER, 07/12/2007
- Re: [MSAR] Response on Civil Air Patrol and (horse) mounted search and rescue, fireflymichele, 07/12/2007
- Re: [MSAR] Response on Civil Air Patrol and (horse) mounted search and rescue, IRVIN LICHTENSTEIN, 07/12/2007
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Re: [MSAR] Response on Civil Air Patrol and (horse) mounted search and rescue,
ALLEN SNYDER, 07/12/2007
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Re: [MSAR] Civil Air Patrol and (horse) mounted search and rescue,
MSAR, 07/06/2007
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Re: [MSAR] Civil Air Patrol and (horse) mounted search and rescue,
ALLEN SNYDER, 07/06/2007
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