Mounted search and rescue

["irvin lichtenstein" <ilichten1@verizon.net>]

Depending on the state you are in personnel records should be kept under
lock and seal. Additionally, the Privacy Act of 1974 amended applies.  Most
teams are a little more casual but the files are in a file cabinet and the
forms are marked private data here (SE PA).  You should also be aware that
training records are either personnel data or worse, educational
transcripts.  In Pennsylvania I had to shred (and sign that I did) the
College of Education records at Temple University when I worked there that
indicated what year a student was in because their name and student ID was
on the printout. There were 12 numbered paper copies, about 1200 pages each,
3 cycles per year

One problem with the PA state SAR council was they wanted identified
training records from each member team and therefore needed a coerced
release from each member of each member team to avoid violating the law.

Our VFC's NFIRS system has two sets of contacts-- published and unpublished
and they are limited to the member's call back contacts.  None of the
emergency contact data in the system is reportable.

irv lichtenstein

-----Original Message-----
From: msar-riders-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:msar-riders-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org]On Behalf Of Hal Sikes
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 11:50 PM
To: Mounted search and rescue
Subject: Re: [MSAR] "ICE" for Rescuers


Una,
In an earlier post you wrote:

There should be a form on file.  And the file should be easily
available in case of emergency.  Hah.  Where are your team's
files, Jorene?

So how does it now become:
> That is Need To Know information, Jorene, and you don't need
> to know.  ??

Hal Sikes




----- Original Message -----
From: "Una Smith" <una.smith@att.net>>
To: "Mounted search and rescue" <msar-riders@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: [MSAR] "ICE" for Rescuers


> Jorene Downs wrote:
> >Where are your team's files?
>
> That is Need To Know information, Jorene, and you don't need
> to know.
>
> Folks, as I've mentioned before, unlike many western states
> including California, and like many eastern states, in New
> Mexico SAR is not operated out of county sheriff's offices
> but instead is a state-wide function.  And in the entire state
> there is only one paid SAR person.  We have no 24hr manned
> dispatch office, no records office, no trailer that will be
> at every incident.  Each of the now over 80 recognized SAR
> teams (units) in New Mexico keeps its own records.  We take
> good care of each other, the old fashioned way:  we work as
> a team, and we know the people with whom we work.
>
> Una Smith
> New Mexico
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