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[MSAR] MSAR standards / NASAR MSAR Practical standards
- From: "Jorene Downs" <Jorene@CEOates.com>
- To: "Mounted search and rescue" <msar-riders@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: [MSAR] MSAR standards / NASAR MSAR Practical standards
- Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 18:22:53 -0700
I'm not sure I understand your position. What
Ground SAR skills indicated in NASAR SARTech (III, II, I) do you think aren't
needed for MSAR? And what minimum skill levels do you believe aren't
addressed by the proposed NASAR MSAR Practical standards? Or, what do you
think needs to be changed to provide better "balance" in the proposed standards?
(I don't see anything posted by you on www.smartgroups.com/groups/NASAR-MSAR
)
I haven't seen any announcements or requests here
for input or recruiting for a committee, so if someone who posts here is
working on MSAR standards I'd consider it to be an individual / individuals
working on a rough draft ... not representing MSAR Riders. ;)
I support the concept of national standards for
MSAR. However, any person / team could post some MSAR standards online and
suggest that everyone use them, but that doesn't create a national standard or
provide incentive for anyone to use those free standards ... because there would
be no real certification related to those standards. Recognized certification
requires standards and testing, and testing must have consistency in
application, which means there needs to be a "Train The Trainer" program to
create that consistency.
I'm thinking any recognized "national
standard" for MSAR will need the backing of an organization recognized
nationwide to create and publish the standards, provide instructors /
evaluators, etc., to certify riders. But any decent standard for MSAR would need
to also define and certify Ground SAR standards for riders, which would
essentially put a new MSAR organization in competition with NASAR for Ground SAR
training and certification.
However, I'm open to suggestion. ;)
If someone is planning to launch a new
organization specific to MSAR, complete with standards, quality controlled
testing, etc., I'd like to hear more details.
If someone is planning to roll out a "national
standard" for MSAR without starting a new organization to provide certification
with quality control, I'd like to hear the strategy of how this is supposed
to work.
~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Jorene Downs Tulare Co, CA SAR, MSAR, Swiftwater Rescue, US&R, Technical Rescue, Cave Rescue, Hasty Team, ICP www.CEOates.com/sar Tulare-Kings CERT Program Coordinator www.tk-cert.org |
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[MSAR] NASAR MSAR Practical standards,
Jorene Downs, 05/29/2004
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RE: [MSAR] NASAR MSAR Practical standards,
Jeff Ezell, 05/29/2004
- Re: [MSAR] NASAR MSAR Practical standards, Jorene Downs, 05/29/2004
- Re: [MSAR] NASAR MSAR Practical standards, Vieths, 05/30/2004
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
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Re: [MSAR] NASAR MSAR Practical standards,
Slybarbara, 05/30/2004
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Re: [MSAR] NASAR MSAR Practical standards,
tm'-fi, 05/30/2004
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[MSAR] MSAR standards / NASAR MSAR Practical standards,
Jorene Downs, 05/30/2004
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RE: [MSAR] MSAR standards / NASAR MSAR Practical standards,
David C. Kovar, 05/30/2004
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Re: [MSAR] MSAR standards / NASAR MSAR Practical standards,
Jorene Downs, 05/31/2004
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RE: [MSAR] MSAR standards / NASAR MSAR Practical standards,
David C. Kovar, 05/31/2004
- RE: [MSAR] MSAR standards / NASAR MSAR Practical standards, Ian Vowles, 05/31/2004
- RE: [MSAR] MSAR standards / NASAR MSAR Practical standards, David C. Kovar, 05/31/2004
- RE: [MSAR] MSAR standards / NASAR MSAR Practical standards, Ian Vowles, 05/31/2004
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RE: [MSAR] MSAR standards / NASAR MSAR Practical standards,
David C. Kovar, 05/31/2004
- Re: [MSAR] MSAR standards / NASAR MSAR Practical standards, Jorene Downs, 05/31/2004
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Re: [MSAR] MSAR standards / NASAR MSAR Practical standards,
Jorene Downs, 05/31/2004
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RE: [MSAR] MSAR standards / NASAR MSAR Practical standards,
David C. Kovar, 05/30/2004
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[MSAR] MSAR standards / NASAR MSAR Practical standards,
Jorene Downs, 05/30/2004
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[MSAR] Re: NASAR MSAR Practical standards,
tm'-fi, 05/31/2004
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Re: [MSAR] Re: NASAR MSAR Practical standards,
Jorene Downs, 05/31/2004
- Re: [MSAR] Re: NASAR MSAR Practical standards, tm'-fi, 05/31/2004
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Re: [MSAR] Re: NASAR MSAR Practical standards,
Jorene Downs, 05/31/2004
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Re: [MSAR] NASAR MSAR Practical standards,
tm'-fi, 05/30/2004
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RE: [MSAR] NASAR MSAR Practical standards,
Jeff Ezell, 05/29/2004
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