Market Farming

[Gordon Jackson <jacksongordon AT att.net>]

The link below descibes issues and resolution related to bees and its effects.

http://www.bayercropscience.com/bcsweb/cropprotection.nsf/id/en_safety_of_clothianidin_to_bees?open&l=en&ccm=500039

 

Gordon

Hartford City IN

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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Bayer and EPA break the law (Brigette Leach)
  2. Re: Paper Mulch (Joan Vibert)
  3. Re: Paper Mulch (SaladG AT aol.com)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 14:17:57 -0500
From: "Brigette Leach" <afhg AT ctsmail.net>
To: "Market Farming" <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Bayer and EPA break the law
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Leigh,

This is not a tone I care to see on the list. It is easy to disagree
respectfully, and I don't read this as being respectful.

RIchard, you need to go back to logic 101.  Let me say it simply for
> you this time so you don't get confused and wrongly paraphrase what I
> wrote.

Brigette


----- Original Message -----
From: "Leigh Hauter" <bullrunfarm AT hughes.net>
To: "Market Farming" <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Bayer and EPA break the law


> RIchard, you need to go back to logic 101.  Let me say it simply for you
> this time so you don't get confused and wrongly paraphrase what I wrote.
>
>  Bayer is bending if not breaking the law.
>
> Eight years ago Bayer was supposed to successfully field test Poncho
> (Clothianidin) to show it could be safely used without endangering honey
> bee colonies.
>
> Bayer's product failed the simple field tests.
>
> By law,  if Bayer's product failed the field test it doesn't get a license
> to distribute its product.  That's the law.
>
> Instead of following the law and refusing to license Poncho, the Bush
> Administration's EPA gave Bayer a second chance and while they waited for
> Bayer to re-conduct the test it issued a temporary license.
>
> Now, here we are, eight years later and Bayer has still not conducted the
> basic test (if it has the product must not have passed because no one has
> been told), it still hasn't proven that its product can be safely used
> without hurting honey bee colonies.
>
> The American Federation of Beekeepers as well as the National Honey Bee
> Advisory Board (an elected body of professional beekeepers) are saying
> enough is enough. They are calling on the government to issue Bayer an
> immediate stop-use order.
>
> The EPA had the power to pull the temporary license.  Pull it now until
> Bayer is able to conduct the test they should have conducted eight years
> ago.
>
> Also, before Bayer is allowed to put their product back on the market it
> must redesign its field studies (the ones it couldn't pass) to satisfy the
> EPA staff's charge that the original studies were insufficiently rigorous
> to test whether clothianidin contributes to CCD in a real-world scenario.
> (the previous test evaluated the wrong crop, over an insufficient time
> period and with inadequate controls).
>
> Richard,  so you don't get confused with what I'm saying let me give you a
> really brief summary
>
> Clothianidin has not yet, after eight years, passed the tests to be
> licensed as an insecticide. Immediately pull Clothianidin 'temporary'
> license and keep it off the market until it can be proven to be safe for
> honey bee colonies.
>
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 16:18:48 -0600
From: Joan Vibert <joan AT windwalker-farm.com>
To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Paper Mulch
Message-ID: <C95F6268.90B2A%joan AT windwalker-farm.com>
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Phil - we used paper mulch from www.weedguardplus.com last year.  I used it
in the hightunnel under the tomatoes and outside on the onion bed.  It ships
from Colorado and it is heavy but I received an email from them recently
that they were able to offer lower shipping rates ? not sure how.

I liked using it, especially for the onions because they get weedy so
quickly.  Of course, weeds did come up through the holes but it wasn?t like
those whole weedy onion beds I?ve managed to create in years past.  It did
split a couple of places due to shrinkage after being wet and the wind
caught some of it and flapped it around but it didn?t tear off and we just
piled soil on the tear and it was fine.  It degraded outside possibly a
little early but last year was so wet that we were degrading also.  We laid
it by hand and with a couple of good shovelers and no wind it wasn?t bad at
all to lay on freshly tilled soil.

As I remember it comes in 500 foot rolls.  It plants nicely because you wet
it just prior to cutting it ? we used our garlic dibble (5 dibbles across on
a wood frame with handles) and it was easy to make the onion holes.

Joan
Windwalker Farm
Ottawa, KS



From: Phil Hackett <SaladG AT AOL.COM>
Reply-To: Market Farming <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 12:09:06 EST
To: <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Paper Mulch

Bill we were pretty wet around here last year, did it degrade really fast
along the edge's of where it goes in the ground, and what about tearing, it
doesn't have the flexability as plastic.

Phil from Iowa
www.timberridgelamb.com <http://www.timberridgelamb.com>


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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 22:19:38 EST
From: SaladG AT aol.com
To: market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Paper Mulch
Message-ID: <a3f07.77594952.3a6ba6ca AT aol.com" ymailto="mailto:a3f07.77594952.3a6ba6ca AT aol.com">a3f07.77594952.3a6ba6ca AT aol.com>
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Thanks a million Joan that was the same company I had information on. 
After you sent the link I found a link on my favorites.  Only make one day  of
the conference, took off and went to Galveston for awhile, a little  warmer
but really windy.

Phil from Iowa
_www.timberridgelamb.com_ (http://www.timberridgelamb.com)
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