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  • From: Jack Moffitt <jackmoffitt AT gmail.com>
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  • Subject: [Market-farming] Pricing tomatos
  • Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 09:15:28 -0500

Outlaw re-selling? You mean adopt the strategy of the huge bureaucracy that threatens small growers everywhere by putting us under the rule of the FDA?
How about you take the steps to promote your product and let the consumer decide? 

Tomatoes get very little attention from us. They plummet in price immediately after the season starts, every season, yet they seem to garner the bulk of grower attention, frets, concerns and  worries. After the initial appearance, 80% of the vendors have more than they could hope to sell at any price and the food bank people don't even want them. Sure cuts down on the chicken feed bill!

Please don't beg for more laws. We are close to being outlaws as it is.

Jack Moffitt
Bayview Veggies - Bayview Texas



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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: What weeds tell us about the soil (Carla Shafer)
  2. Re: Pricing tomatoes (Don Lareau)
  3. Re: Pricing tomatoes (Jay Sleichter)


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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 21:39:37 -0500
From: Carla Shafer <cs13 AT cornell.edu>
To: rob AT songberry.ca,   Market Farming
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Subject: Re: [Market-farming] What weeds tell us about the soil
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Ecology Action in Willits, California, did some work on a soil analysis
program based on weed and plant observations. I think the material is in
their catalog of publications.

Carla Shafer, Farmer
Earthly Goods Farm
3344 Hwy 438
Pleasantville, TN 37033

ph 931 230-7567                    Visit us on the web at
http://www.EarthlyGoodsFarm.com


On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Rob Wallbridge <rob AT songberry.ca> wrote:

>  Hi Andrea,
>
>
>
> Check out ?Weeds and Why They Grow? by Jay L. McCaman.
>
> Here?s one link:
> http://www.acresusa.com/books/closeup.asp?action="search&prodid=73&catid=&pcid=2
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> If you do a search for ?weeds? in the books section of the Acres USA
> website, you?ll find a few more references, too, but this is the book I have
> on my shelf.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rob
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>
>
> Rob Wallbridge
>
> Songberry Organic Farm
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> email:
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> web: www.songberry.ca <http://www.songberry.com/>
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> facebook: become a fan of "Songberry Organic Farm"
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> *Sent:* Thursday, July 01, 2010 9:42 PM
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> *Subject:* [Market-farming] What weeds tell us about the soil
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>    Does anyone know of a good reference (website or book) that explains
> what particular weeds tell us about the soil, i.e. bindweed grows well in
> soil with low organic content.
>    I've been searching through the internet with no results but I know such
> a thing exists.
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> Thanks in advance
> Andrea
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> quarter acre farm
> sonoma, ca
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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 20:41:58 -0600
From: "Don Lareau" <dlareau AT tds.net>
To: "'Market Farming'" <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Pricing tomatoes
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This is why resellers should be outlawed from selling at farmers markets.
It is a law in some states.  Everyone should try and get on the board of
their local markets and change the rules so that resellers are outlawed from
selling at the markets, market that fact and create a following of people
who value local produce.  Resellers are not farmers and therefore should not
be able to sell at farmers markets.  It should be outlawed in every state.





Zephyros Farm and Garden

Daphne Yannakakis and Don Lareau

11466 3725 Rd.

Paonia, Co. 81428

970-527-3636

www.zephyrosfarmandgarden.com

dlareau AT tds.net





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[mailto:market-farming-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of idyllwild
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Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 12:07 PM
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Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Pricing tomatoes



Jay:

You probably know this, but I'd spend late Summer and Winter strategizing on
different markets to sell at. Its always going to be difficult to sell in a
market with low-balling resellers, especially if it's Cal product (at least
most of our resellers have the dignity to stick to a product closer to our
region...).

Mike

On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Mike Rock <mikerock AT mhtc.net> wrote:

Samples....make sure to have salt and pepper shakers!!  Even those little
salt things from burger stands.

Mike......with probably too much sodium, but happy!

Jay Sleichter wrote:

Today was the first day I had big tomatoes for sale at market. I have about
30 pounds of Cherokee Purples and 10 pounds of Big Beef and some yellow
ones.  I put $3.00 a pound on them and I brought home about 18 pounds of
tomatoes. Lots of dissatisfied customers.   So, I guess I will drop to $2.50
a pound next week and see what happens.  Next week I will have over a
hundred pounds to sell for sure.  As far as I know I am the only person with
homegrown tomatoes at my market. Lots of ones that are bought and resold out
of California and else where.

As far as Cherry Tomatoes, I stuck with $2.50 a pint. I had 75 pint baskets
and I brought home 29.  I am the only person with them at my market. I think
I will offer a 3 baskets for $6 next week and see what happens.
Money is tight around here, but I have expenses that I have to cover, also.

Jay

Jay's Jellies, Produce and More

Clay Center, Kansas

www.jaysjellies.com

http://highfarming.blogspot.com/







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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 20:33:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jay Sleichter <jaysleichter AT yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Pricing tomatoes
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I couldn't agree more. These outfits do grow produce too, but you can never tell what they grew and what is bought and resold.? The market is requiring them to say where everything is coming from.? Sometimes they tell the truth, sometimes not.? They have no concept of value. Most everything is sold at wholesale prices.? I quit selling cucumbers there.? When they sell them for 5 to 6 for a $1, it is hard to sell mine at 75 cents each.? Zucchini and bell peppers are similar.

Does anyone know of a market that restricts reselling during certain dates? I have been thinking about proposing a rule change this fall.? For example, when local tomatoes are available, reselling tomatoes should not be allowed.? I am thinking like no reselling from July 1 though October 1. Most of the main crops would have a date.? I know that outlawing reselling won't fly.? So this would be a starting place.

Jay ?

Jay's Jellies, Produce and More

Clay Center, Kansas

www.jaysjellies.com

http://highfarming.blogspot.com/

--- On Thu, 7/1/10, Don Lareau <dlareau AT tds.net> wrote:

From: Don Lareau <dlareau AT tds.net>
Subject: Re: [Market-farming] Pricing tomatoes
To: "'Market Farming'" <market-farming AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Thursday, July 1, 2010, 9:41 PM















This is why resellers should be outlawed
from selling at farmers markets.? It is a law in some states.? Everyone should
try and get on the board of their local markets and change the rules so that
resellers are outlawed from selling at the markets, market that fact and create
a following of people who value local produce.? Resellers are not farmers and
therefore should not be able to sell at farmers markets.? It should be outlawed
in every state.

?

?



Zephyros Farm and Garden

Daphne Yannakakis and Don Lareau

11466 3725 Rd.

Paonia, Co. 81428

970-527-3636

www.zephyrosfarmandgarden.com

dlareau AT tds.net

?

?



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From: market-farming-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:market-farming-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of idyllwild farm

Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010
12:07 PM

To: Market Farming

Subject: Re: [Market-farming]
Pricing tomatoes

?

Jay:



You probably know this, but I'd spend late Summer and
Winter strategizing on different markets to sell at. Its always going to be
difficult to sell in a market with low-balling resellers, especially if it's
Cal product (at least most of our resellers have the dignity to stick to a product
closer to our region...).?





Mike



On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Mike Rock <mikerock AT mhtc.net> wrote:

Samples....make sure to have salt and pepper shakers!!
?Even those little salt things from burger stands.



Mike......with probably too much sodium, but happy!



Jay Sleichter wrote:





Today
was the first day I had big tomatoes for sale at market. I have about 30 pounds
of Cherokee Purples and 10 pounds of Big Beef and some yellow ones. ?I put
$3.00 a pound on them and I brought home about 18 pounds of tomatoes. Lots of
dissatisfied customers. ? So, I guess I will drop to $2.50 a pound next
week and see what happens. ?Next week I will have over a hundred pounds to
sell for sure. ?As far as I know I am the only person with homegrown
tomatoes at my market. Lots of ones that are bought and resold out of
California and else where.



As far as Cherry Tomatoes, I stuck with $2.50 a pint. I had 75 pint baskets and
I brought home 29. ?I am the only person with them at my market. I think I
will offer a 3 baskets for $6 next week and see what happens. ? ?

Money is tight around here, but I have expenses that I have to cover, also.



Jay



Jay's Jellies, Produce and More



Clay Center, Kansas



www.jaysjellies.com



http://highfarming.blogspot.com/











? ? ?





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