Healthy soil and sustainable growing

[John D'hondt <dhondt@eircom.net>]

Community was my worst problem since the vast majority of people here 
are just consumers who see it as degradation to do anything at all for 
themselves. My children were bullied in school because they did not 
bring lunch consisting of crisps, mars bars and coca cola. And I was 
called a bad father because I let them walk the 2 miles to school unless 
the weather was bad.
The rest like making a horse drawn wagon or other horse drawn tools is 
simple. I could have made a horse drawn plow as well but decided never 
to plow. Keeping food without electric refrigeration is easy. I've dried 
a few miles of sausage in my day and smoked many a ham. Vegetables we 
have year round fresh except for the fermented sort.
John

On 21/01/15 01:27, herb farmer wrote:
> U write " it will be very hard to start a new economics when the old 
> system collapses as it must and will do."
>
> I've long tried to make the point that we can't just revert to 1900 or 
> some dark age when fossil fuels fail, as some seem to think is our 
> destiny. Problem being, we just don't know how. They had skills we 
> know very little of, & social networks, traditions, etc. that held 
> communities together. Can ANYONE today make a horsedrawn wagon without 
> modern tools & technology? How did they farm before the steel 
> moldboard plow? Or keep food without electric refrigeration?
>
> Those out there who can stand some harsh reading should check out 
> http://guymcpherson.com/  or https://twitter.com/Guy_McPherson on 
> Twitter. &Going Dark Documentary 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaIxdV4_L0Y
> "This 30 minute documentary follows a year in the life of Evolutionary 
> Biologist, Dr. Guy R. McPherson, lecturing around the world about 
> abrupt Climate Change, Collapse and Near Term Human Extinction. It is 
> a personal telling from the view of the documentarian (me) of how it 
> feels to have been a life-long environmentalist only to discover that 
> our days may be numbered, and very shortly. Despite the Doomy topic, 
> there is humor, and hope at the end of time, but most importantly, 
> there is love."
>
> paul, somewhere near McPherson in the US southwest
>
>
> On 1/20/2015 12:29 PM, John D'hondt wrote:
> > I both hope and fear that this day is not too far away. Hope because 
> > the destruction of our life support system is now so enormous that 
> > every year that we keep going as usual can make the arrival at the 
> > bottom very hard.
> > I was reading an article yesterday about massive animal extinctions 
> > that are becoming ever more common. A massive extinction is defined 
> > as more than a billion individuals dying, or 90 % of the species 
> > disappearing or 700 million ton of dead meat resulting. And this is 
> > now common!
> > And I fear because all our soils, water and air are now so polluted 
> > that it will be very hard to start a new economics when the old 
> > system collapses as it must and will do.
> > John
> >
> > On 20/01/15 03:17, herb farmer wrote:
> > > * The World After Industrial Civilization Goes, Usher in the "new" 
> > > economics of local self-sufficiency
> > > http://www.culturechange.org/cms/content/view/785/1/
> > >
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