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  • From: Dan Conine <dconine@bertramwireless.com>
  • To: livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Why industrial farming may be the most, , INefficient farming method
  • Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 21:56:15 -0500

Yeah, I know what you mean. My point is to have some kind of feedback mechanism at the point of purchase that informs the buyer how much it really costs them in the future to buy something instead of making or growing it. The monetary economy does a grand piece of work hiding those costs so that people will be disinformed or uninformed when they "vote" with their money.
They end up voting for cheap stuff and then complaining when other forms of taxation have to make up for the cheap prices on food and manufactured goods, while they "see" the cost of government constantly shown on the news or during debates about taxes, so they vote for more of the industrialists who have "proven" themselves to be more efficient (by shifting many of their costs and risks to the commons).

As a purchase, perhaps people don't pay enough VAT to make them get involved in how it's spent.
After all, the more they spend for a car or a house, the more they put into taking care of it.
Perhaps they subconsciously consider 23% as the price for a disposable government.

I'm just musing. Try not to take too much of my insanity seriously.

Great topic and discussion. My thanks to everyone and Paul, too.

;)

On 3/30/2014 11:00 AM, livingontheland-request@lists.ibiblio.org wrote:
From: "John D'hondt"<dhondt@eircom.net>
To: "Healthy soil and sustainable growing"
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INefficient farming method
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We have a 23 % tax on goods and services here Dan. It is called value added
tax or VAT.
The thing is that nobody here notices this doing any good for the commons.
It does allow our top politicians to have higher wages (and massive perks)
than your president though. For the commons there is austerity.
John






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