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- From: "John D'hondt" <dhondt@eircom.net>
- To: "Rob Wilson" <robwilson5095@yahoo.com>, "Healthy soil and sustainable growing" <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] about climate
- Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 21:56:49 +0100
To me "bio" char is just a new-speak word to sell
charcoal better Rob. Should you not better try compost teas, microbial teas and
other biological brews on their own without the black stuff before you ascribe a
growth miracle to charcoal?
I have tried charcoal not only on seedlings but in
plant beds as well since I have it available most of the time anyway. I had beds
with and without and with and without the brews that you mention and I saw
results from the teas and nothing from the charcoal. Zilch, nada, nothing. I do
see results from hugelcultur, putting real timber underground and letting the
soil microbes and fungi do the job of breaking timber down.
I know that the net is full of articles waxing
euphoric about "bio-char". It is extremely fashionable. Even Dr. Mercola seems
to be sold on it these days. I have yet to see anybody doing real tests with
controls so until people do it is no more than an emperor without clothes. And I
have every reason to believe it is extremely damaging to the environment. See
how much energy it costs to make charcoal yourself and how much carbon dioxide
is spewed into the air while doing it. A quick calculation tells me that you
likely bring 20 times more CO2 into the air than you sequester with the end
product. Real pyrolysation is less damaging but who can afford such an
installation?
I do think that activated charcoal can be a
fantastic health material. It used to be readily available for all kinds of
digestive problems. And it is great in case of poisoning.
And it can bind to pesticides and other toxins in
the soil and make those inactive. But you don't need tons of it for that
purpose.
John
From: Rob Wilson
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[Livingontheland] about climate,
tradingpost, 09/25/2013
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Re: [Livingontheland] about climate,
John D'hondt, 09/27/2013
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Re: [Livingontheland] about climate,
ziggycatnap, 09/28/2013
- Re: [Livingontheland] about climate, John D'hondt, 09/29/2013
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Re: [Livingontheland] about climate,
Rob Wilson, 09/28/2013
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Re: [Livingontheland] about climate,
tradingpost, 09/28/2013
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Re: [Livingontheland] about climate,
Harvey Ussery, 09/29/2013
- Re: [Livingontheland] about climate, John D'hondt, 09/30/2013
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Re: [Livingontheland] about climate,
Rob Wilson, 09/29/2013
- Re: [Livingontheland] about climate, tradingpost, 09/30/2013
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Re: [Livingontheland] about climate,
Harvey Ussery, 09/29/2013
- Re: [Livingontheland] about climate, John D'hondt, 09/29/2013
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Re: [Livingontheland] about climate,
tradingpost, 09/28/2013
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Re: [Livingontheland] about climate,
ziggycatnap, 09/28/2013
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Re: [Livingontheland] about climate,
Lori, 09/28/2013
- Re: [Livingontheland] about climate, david darr, 09/28/2013
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Re: [Livingontheland] about climate,
tradingpost, 09/28/2013
- Re: [Livingontheland] about climate, Pete Vukovich, 09/28/2013
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Re: [Livingontheland] about climate,
John D'hondt, 09/27/2013
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