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- From: "Tradingpost" <tradingpost@lobo.net>
- To: livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] the Big Lie
- Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 21:48:17 -0600
Cynicism? then I'm in good company
That "best left to the professionals" con is in medicine too. Doctors peddle
drugs. Any treatment outside standad protocols is banned or ostracised. They
tried to put me on statins claiming high cholestrol tho all other numbers
show no problem, no attempt to discuss other factors like diet, exercise,
lifestyle. Sure fella.
What's true is it's hard to make a living growing food, and the reasons
aren't hard to see. Like everything else agribusiness is rigged to subsidize
big and penalize small. But growing CAN supplement income or help feed family
and others, and do it without poisoning and killing people.
paul tradingpost@lobo.net
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On 5/13/2011 at 10:00 AM Pete Vukovich wrote:
>Regardless of the facts , they'll keep repeating it. And I find myself
>getting more incensed and disgusted every time I hear it. Not because they
>keep repeating it, because I believe I know why they keep repeating it.
>Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth. As long as you control
>the majority of what the majority of people think, you control them and by
>extension they'll control the 'outliers' for you.
>
>There are so many lies they have to keep track of. Farming tough work and
>is best left to us, the professionals. Sure a backyard garden is great if
>you want 'fresh' vegetables, or 'off' varieties, but you are basically
>getting what we give you much less efficiently. Technology has made such
>great strides, one can be certain more are just around the corner. We
>practically control nature now, so even if we pave it over it'll still be
>natural - so feel free to disconnect from it. Nature is there to adapt to
>you, don't worry your safe. We are just here to do for you what you
>couldn't possibly do for yourself, because we truly care about your
>welfare. On and on.
>
> I really don't know where my cynicism comes from sometimes. Oh yeah now I
>remember, the outside world.
>
>--pete
>
>--- On Thu, 5/12/11, Tradingpost <tradingpost@lobo.net> wrote:
>
>From: Tradingpost <tradingpost@lobo.net>
>Subject: [Livingontheland] the Big Lie
>To: livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org
>Date: Thursday, May 12, 2011, 9:04 PM
>
>
>from Farm Bill 2012: Time For An Overhaul With Innovative Farming Systems
>
>Agriculture giant Cargill, Inc. emailed The Huffington Post stating that
>global food security "is a central challenge of our times, and
>conventional agriculture has to be part of the answer." A portion of their
>statement read:
> We recognize there are different approaches and merits to conventional
>and organic agriculture. However, taking organic to the scale of
>commercial would require three times the amount of land to feed our
>rapidly growing world population, which would create its own set of
>environmental consequences.
>
>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/12/farm-bill-2012-innovative-farming_n_860069.html
>------
>There's the Big Lie.
>
>In fact conventional agricuture is NOT feeding the world now; one third of
>the world's population, 2 billion, can't afford to buy enough food at
>corporate prices.
>
>Take the land and water wasted feeding 10 times more beef than we need and
>feed people directly.
>
>Not to mention millions just in the U.S. can produce much of their own
>food at home, and a billion more elsewhere could if corporations didn't
>seize their land.
>
>paul tradingpost@lobo.net
>
>
>
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[Livingontheland] the Big Lie,
Tradingpost, 05/13/2011
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Re: [Livingontheland] the Big Lie,
Pete Vukovich, 05/13/2011
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Re: [Livingontheland] the Big Lie,
Tradingpost, 05/13/2011
- Re: [Livingontheland] the Big Lie, Liz, 05/14/2011
- Re: [Livingontheland] the Big Lie, John D'hondt, 05/14/2011
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Re: [Livingontheland] the Big Lie,
Tradingpost, 05/13/2011
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: [Livingontheland] the Big Lie, Pego Rice, 05/15/2011
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Re: [Livingontheland] the Big Lie,
Pete Vukovich, 05/13/2011
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