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Re: [Livingontheland] Farms in Skyscrapers Won't Solve Our Food Problems
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- Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 23:50:01 -0500 (CDT)
NUTS! That's all that needs to be said!
I just skimmed over this (trying as hard as I could to keep my blood pressure down), but I don't think I saw any mention of dealing with water! Takes a LOT of energy to move water UP! And, based on all those lights and the resultant heat, it's a sure bet that they'll end up using more water than more normal practices would use. And... speaking of water and heat, what would all of that end up doing to the buildings? Yikes!
That's about enough from me, have to settle the blood pressure down now...
-Mark Nagel
Everett, WA
May 3, 2010 09:23:04 PM, livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org wrote:
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>I've got a lot to say about this - anyone want to jump in?
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>paul tradingpost@lobo.net
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>On 5/3/2010 at 9:04 PM Tradingpost wrote:
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>>Why Planting Farms in Skyscrapers Won't Solve Our Food Problems
>>'Vertical' farming would not solve the most pressing agricultural
>problems
>>-- just make things worse.
>>May 3, 2010 |
>>http://www.alternet.org/food/146686/why_planting_farms_in_skyscrapers_won%27t_solve_our_food_problems?page=entire
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>>
>>Agriculture in America has become an ecological, social and nutritional
>>disaster of sufficiently huge scale to inspire a frenzy of book-writing,
>>filmmaking, conference-holding and project-initiating in recent years. The
>>critiques that emerge are often right on the money, highlighting pesticide
>>and nitrate pollution, soil erosion, the consequences of meat production
>>in feedlots and confinement sheds, the destruction of rural communities
>>and the poor nutritional quality of food. But the solutions being proposed
>>have not, for the most part, been of the same scale as the problems; most
>>would do little more than nibble at the edges of America's long-running
>>agricultural fiasco.
>>
>>A striking example of such ill fit between problem and proposed response
>>can be found in the November 2009 issue of Scientific American, where
>>Dickson Despommier, a professor of public health and environmental health
>>sciences at Columbia University, made his case for what he calls "vertical
>>farms," a vision he promotes through his site verticalfarm.com.
>>
>>After doing a very good job of describing the terrible toll that
>>agriculture takes on soil, water, and biodiversity across the globe,
>>Despommier's article lays out a proposal to replace soil-based farming
>>with a system of producing food crops in tall urban buildings-to, he
>>writes, "grow crops indoors, under rigorously controlled conditions,
>in
>>vertical farms. Plants grown in high-rise buildings erected on now vacant
>>city lots and in large, multistory rooftop greenhouses could produce food
>>year-round using significantly less water, producing little waste, with
>>less risk of infectious diseases, and no need for fossil-fueled machinery
>>or transĀ¬port from distant rural farms."
>>
>>Despommier describes how one of his scenarios-which are based on the use
>>of hydroponic or "aeroponic" methods of growing plants without
>soil-might
>>work: "Let us say that each floor of a vertical farm offers four growing
>>seasons, double the plant density, and two layers per floor-a multiplying
>>factor of 16 (4 _ 2 _ 2). A 30-story building covering one city block
>>could therefore produce 2,400 acres of food (30 stories _ 5 acres _ 16)
>a
>>year." By extrapolating numbers like those and assuming extraordinary
>>leaps in technology, as well as the repeal of Murphy's Law, he has made
>>such a convincing case for vertical farms that, he claims, "many
>>developers, investors, mayors and city planners have become advocates."
>>Time magazine has run a generally positive story on the concept. And an
>>Australian architect is currently planning to build the first full-scale
>>vertical farm, in China.
>>
>>The idea for vertical agriculture grows out of the realization that there
>>are not enough exposed horizontal surfaces available in most urban areas
>>to produce the quantities of food needed to feed urban populations.
>>Although the concept has provided opportunities for architecture students
>>and others to create innovative, sometimes beautiful building designs, it
>>holds little practical potential for providing food. Even if vertical
>>farming were feasible on a large scale, it would not solve the most
>>pressing agricultural problems; rather, it would push the dependence of
>>food production on industrial inputs to even greater heights. It would
>>ensure that dependence by depriving crops not only of soil but also of the
>>most plentiful and ecologically benign energy source of all: sunlight.
>>
>>Groping in the dark
>>
>>Agriculture as it has always been practiced-call it "horizontal
>>farming"-casts an extremely broad, green "net" across the
>landscape to
>>capture solar energy, which plants use in producing food. Photosynthesis
>>converts a small percentage of the solar energy that falls on a leaf into
>>the chemical energy in food. But that small percentage is enough; sunlight
>>is plentiful, and left to themselves, plants do not have to rely on any
>>other sources of energy to grow and produce.
>>
>>Nevertheless, modern agriculture has managed to make food production an
>>energy-losing proposition. Its emphasis on increasing yield per unit of
>>land and per unit of human labor has meant a sharp increase in the input
>>of fossil energy-with farms often using more energy to produce the food
>>than is contained in the food. Some of the most notorious features of
>>factory farming are dark, dank hog and poultry confinement operations;
>>now, Despommier's plan would create plant-confinement operations as
>well.
>>
>>Most of the attention that vertical farming has received in the media has
>>been embedded in the context of rooftop gardens, greenhouses, and "green"
>>high-rise facades (pdf). But those methods for growing modest amounts of
>>relatively expensive food (usually vegetables) differ from Despommier's
>>plan to "farm" the interiors of buildings in one important respect:
>they
>>are at least capable of capturing solar energy efficiently.
>>
>>For obvious reasons, no one has ever proposed stacking solar photovoltaic
>>panels one above the other. For the same reasons, crop fields cannot be
>>layered one above the other without providing a substitute for the
>>sunlight that has been cut off. Even with all-glass walls, the amount of
>>light reaching plants on all but the top story of a high-rise would fall
>>far, far short of what is needed. (On a sunny day, a room with plenty of
>>windows may look well-lit to our eyes' wide-open pupils, but that light
>>intensity is a tiny fraction of what is needed for crop production.) A
>>significant portion of the light hitting the building would be turned back
>>by the glass, and direct sunlight would penetrate into the interior of a
>>vertical farm only when the sun is low in the sky (especially if, as
>>Despommier recommends, two layers of plants are stuffed into each story.)
>>Even then, it would reach the crop plants at a low angle, so that each
>>square inch of leaf would receive much less light than if the light were
>>hitting the leaf from above.
>>
>>As a result, the lion's share of a vertical farm's lighting would
>have to
>>be supplied artificially, consuming resource-intensive electricity rather
>>than free sunlight. This led us to wonder, "What would be the consequences
>>of a vertical-farming effort large enough to allow us to remove from the
>>landscape, say, the United States' 53 million acres of wheat?"
>That's not
>>an unreasonable question. In fact, it follows from Despommier's own
>>reasons for promoting the practice. He argues, correctly, that soil is
>>currently being abused on a massive scale; therefore, to address the
>>problem, vertical farming would need to displace agriculture from a large
>>proportion of the currently cropped landscape.
>>
>>Our calculations, based on the efficiency of converting sunlight to plant
>>matter, show that just to meet a year's U.S. wheat production with
>>vertical farming would, for lighting alone, require eight times as much
>>electricity as all U.S. utilities generate in an entire year [see
>>calculations here]. And even if it were energetically possible, growing
>>the national wheat crop under lights could substitute for only about 15
>>percent of US cropland. Were it to succeed, that energy buildup of
>>unprecedented scale would still leave 85 percent of cropland in place.
>>
>>Despommier suggests using renewable sources to supply the power needed for
>>vertical farming but fails to consider the scale-up that would be
>>required. Wind, solar, biomass, geothermal, and other renewable
>>electricity sources combined account for about 2% of U.S. generation. So
>>to grow the national wheat crop vertically using renewable sources would
>>mean scaling up the nation's renewable sector by 400-fold just to run
>the
>>lights! (His proposals for doubling plant density, using round-the-clock
>>light, or pushing year-round production, even if they could be made to
>>work, would increase production per unit of area but would not decrease
>>the energy needed for lighting per unit of food produced.)
>>
>>One of our colleagues suggested, with his tongue in cheek, an alternative:
>>"What about vertical nuclear energy? We could stack reactors in
>>skyscrapers alongside the farming skyscrapers, to provide the
>>electricity!" Fortunately, no one's going to try that, because
>just to
>>grow our wheat. we'd have to add another 4000 or so nuclear reactors
>to
>>the hundred or so currently in the United States.
>>
>>To have a much greater impact on soil conservation efforts than the
>>displacement of wheat would accomplish, we'd want to take indoors the
>>nation's number-one grain, corn, which occupies about a quarter of our
>>cropped acreage, and some of the most badly abused land. But corn makes
>>wheat's electricity consumption look modest. Because wheat naturally
>grows
>>mostly in fall, winter, and spring and produces lower yields than summer
>>crops like corn, its light requirement is lower. The U.S. corn crop would
>>require energy for lighting equivalent to 40 times the current US
>>electricity supply.
>>
>>Maybe trying to satisfy the nation's huge grain requirements with vertical
>>farming is too ambitious. Assume instead that we were to take a more
>>modest approach and grow the national crop of vegetables under lights. If
>>that required a similar level of lighting per unit area to that used for
>>wheat, we would "only" have to double our national electricity
>generation.
>>But removing all vegetable production from the landscape would preserve
>no
>>more than 2 percent of our currently cropped soils.
>>
>>A question of control
>>
>>Based on its energy requirements for lighting alone, vertical farming
>>would be incapable of substituting for a substantial share of our
>>soil-based agricultural production. But the lighting problem is only the
>>first among many obstacles facing high-rise agriculture. Climate control
>>to achieve suitable growing conditions would add huge energy requirements.
>>And light fixtures would release more energy as heat than as light, which
>>in summer would put huge loads on air-conditioning systems. To maintain
>>the good health of plants grown indoors, humidity and air circulation must
>>be very precisely controlled, often at a high energy cost. And before any
>>of those needs would come the gargantuan resource requirements for
>>construction of the towers themselves.
>>
>>Then there would be the impracticalities and energy requirements for
>>producing and hauling artificial growth media, fertilizers, water, and
>>other resources hundreds of feet up and getting harvests out of the
>>towers. Pesticides could not be eliminated and would undoubtedly be
>>applied in many situations. If Despommier has ever worked in a greenhouse,
>>he knows that some of the pathogens and insects that damage crops in the
>>field can be excluded, but that many others will flourish. Powdery mildew,
>>aphids, mites, or other pests can easily wipe out greenhouse-grown wheat
>>plants, for example, if chemical control is not used.
>>
>>The system inevitably would also require an enormous input of manual
>>labor. As a hydroponic model, Despommier points approvingly to 300-plus
>>acres of greenhouses near Willcox and Snowflake, Arizona, in which
>>EuroFresh Farms grows vegetables. Energetically, EuroFresh has no
>>relevance to vertical farming, because it is a horizontal operation that
>>makes good use of Arizona sunshine. But with four employees per cropped
>>acre, it does provide a good example of the large manual labor
>>requirements of a massive, intensive hydroponic operation.
>>
>>EuroFresh's geographical location is no accident. It lies close to the
>>nation's southern border, and the company employs large numbers of
>>immigrant workers. It also employs inmates from a nearby branch of Arizona
>>State Prison. If EuroFresh is to provide an encouraging example for
>>vertical farming, other questions come to mind. Who will own and control
>>the agricultural high-rises? How and from where will the stoop-labor force
>>for vertical farming be recruited? What will become of the farm families
>>whose central role in the nation's life has been replaced by
>>vertical-farming operations? Will they find themselves migrating to the
>>cities to tend corporate tomato vines?
>>
>>The EuroFresh greenhouses can also illustrate some of the pitfalls of
>>high-input indoor farming. In April, 2009, the company filed for chapter
>>11 bankruptcy, having fallen victim, according to the Arizona Daily Star,
>>to "its debt burden, labor troubles and crop pest problems," which
>>included invasions of white flies. (EuroFresh emerged from bankruptcy in
>>November.)
>>
>>Alternatives
>>
>>The solution to soil and water degradation is not to strip food-producing
>>plants from the landscape only to grow them, deprived of sunlight, in
>>vertical factory farms. Instead, we have to address the Achilles heel of
>>agriculture itself: that it has displaced, on a massive scale, diverse
>>stands of natural perennial vegetation (such as prairies, savannahs, and
>>forests) with monocultures of ephemeral, weakly rooted, soil-damaging
>>annual crops such as corn, soybean, and wheat. So far, the weaknesses of
>>the current food-production system have been compensated for agronomically
>>through greater and greater inputs of fossil fuels and other resources,
>>worsening the ecological impact; vertical farming would extend that trend.
>>
>>The landscape can be saved only through what we might call
>>"three-dimensional farming," a system that is arranged horizontally
>across
>>the landscape to capture and use sunlight but also puts down, deep,
>>long-lived roots to protect the soil, manage water, nutrients efficiently,
>>and help restore the below-ground ecosystems that agriculture has
>>destroyed. That will require converting cropland to the production of
>>diverse, food-producing, perennial crops. It will mean a reliance on
>>natural processes and cohesive rural communities, not technological
>>fantasies.
>>Stan Cox and David Van Tassel are plant-breeding researchers at The Land
>>Institute in Salina, Kansas. Cox's book Losing our Cool: Uncomfortable
>>Truths about Our Air-Conditioned World, will be published in June by The
>>New Press. This article appeared in the Spring 2010 issue of
>>Synthesis/Regeneration.
>>
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