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  • From: "Andeanfx" <andeanfx@midrivers.com>
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  • Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] The Good Hunter & the ethics of killinganimals for food
  • Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 10:29:23 -0600

Doug, I would agree with the ratio bit except there is such a very small portion of the population which hunts. I don't and your post helped with my thinking toward it. Thinking about it more; get rid of the feed lots so people had to hunt and we would likely have less people, not a bad thing. :-)

I think the people of Michigan and Pennsylvania and such states would like to have less deer to contend with on the roads.

Dean


"When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all."

----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Willhite" <drwillhite@earthlink.net>
To: <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 6:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] The Good Hunter & the ethics of killinganimals for food


There are already too many predators (humans) in proportion to the
numbers of wild prey, so promoting hunting wasn't my point in sending
the post.

As a "farmer" raising animals for meat / slaughter, I feel that the
ethics of hunting are quite similar to the ethics involved with
animal husbandry and meat eating. Anything that helps folks see meat
eating more clearly for what is involved -- including the quality of
life & death of the prey animal -- I think will eventually help guide
consumers toward making more conscientious choices in the animals
they choose to purchase & eat.
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Paul, please remind us what the acronyms CAFO & YMMV represent. :)

thanks,
doug

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From: "Tradingpost" <tradingpost@lobo.net>
Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] The Good Hunter & the ethics of killing
animals for food

Interesting topic. Personally I'm not a vegetarian on principle, and
get very little meat or dairy, but it's for a couple reasons. One is
a health concern and the other is a larger issue - the waste of land
and freshwater for excessive, CAFO meat consumption in this country.
And I'd rather see predators allowed to multiply and regain a natural
balance in the wild instead of hunting. YMMV

paul tradingpost@lobo.net

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On Apr 13, 2010, at 10:21 AM, livingontheland-
request@lists.ibiblio.org wrote:

Lloyd: What's your opinion of veganism as a philosophy and way of
life?

Petersen: Veganism is a morally valid, albeit nutritionally extreme,
attempt to live ethically in an overcrowded world of finite material
resources and seemingly infinite cruelty. But is it worth the bother
in the big picture of life and death on earth? Biologically speaking,
the human animal, like our brother the bear, is an opportunistic
omnivore. We have a predator's front-set eyes and an omnivore's gut,
teeth, and nutritional needs. But at least vegans are thinking about
life's problems and experimenting with theoretical solutions, which
is more than I can say for most people, including most hunters.

There are many hidden ecological and economic costs of veganism and
vegetarianism. Ted Kerasote, in his well-researched book Bloodties,
coined the term "fossil-fuel vegetarianism" to describe what's going
on today. If someone wishes to forgo meat - either for moral reasons
or because they believe eating meat is unhealthy - I say more power
to them. But how many vegetarians grow or gather all their own food?
Practically no one falls into that category, which means you're
buying farmed products. Somebody has cleared land, costing many birds
and animals their homes. Maybe that land was cleared a hundred years
before you were born, but you're a direct beneficiary of that
destruction of the wild. Then there are all the chemical fertilizers.
Even if you're using organic fertilizer, it has to be shipped using
fossil fuels. Every spring a big diesel tractor will be used to till
the soil and will smash burrows and kill countless moles and mice and
burrowing owls and even deer fawns. This considerable carnage is all
conveniently invisible.


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