Healthy soil and sustainable growing

[Pete Vukovich <pvukovic1@yahoo.com>]

I think most people here seem to recognize whats coming. I also think there's a good reason Harvey doesn't get much traction beyond blanks stares when he mentions it to the average joe. Industrial societies absolutely depend on ignorance of cause and effect to function and maintain legitimacy. Industrial consumerism is just a subset of ignorance. How  else would you get a nobel prize for saying infinite growth is possible on a finitely bounded ellipsoid (just so long as you use your imagination)?

Certainly lack of organic matter is probably one of the larger causes of water misuse (rain forests with narrow 'o' horizons and heavy recycling capability excepted) in agriculture - but I can't help but think the most significant factors which drive those choices are population size, ignorance, and a false sense of comfort in that order.

 

--- On Sat, 4/11/09, Tradingpost <tradingpost@lobo.net> wrote:

From: Tradingpost <tradingpost@lobo.net>
Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Water Crisis Rocks LA, Mexico City; Who's Next?
To: livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Saturday, April 11, 2009, 8:15 AM

You're right, organic matter level is everything in good soil structure.
But corporate agribusiness can't see anything until it hits them in the
balance sheet. And it will. As for that debt, it wasn't built up by
spending on us ordinary folks since wages have been static for decades
while the wealthy robbed the country into bankruptcy. It's not my debt. Off
topic I know... 

paul tradingpost@lobo.net

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On 4/11/2009 at 8:03 AM Harvey Ussery
 wrote:

>>
>> I've mentioned freshwater as one part of the perfect storm coming
for
>> agriculture, and discussed methods of conservation for food growing.
But
>I
>> get no traction even on a list like this, not even pushback. ~paul 
> 
>As for the water crisis at the macro level, I don't see there's
anything 
>that's going to stop the juggernaut other than the fall of the first 
>dominoes (as opposed to the ravings of wusses and whackos on the subject).
>
>As for agriculture in my own backyard, my experience is that there is 
>nothing more important than getting the organic matter up in my soil. In 
>more than one season here, I've been surprised when people have told
me, 
>"Man, this drought is *awful*--I've already given up on my
garden"--when 
>my own garden was not unduly stressed for water. (OM was 8.4% last time 
>I had it
 tested.)
>
>~Harvey
>
>-- 
>Harvey in northern Virginia
>www.themodernhomestead.us
>
>The current (publicly admitted) level of the national debt is eleven
>trillion dollars, which comes to more than $35,000 *per person* in this
>country. Since roughly 45% of those people are taxpayers, the bill *per
>taxpayer* comes to roughly $80,000. (That's *in addition to* normal
levels
>of taxation to fund current operations of government.) What schedule would
>you propose for paying off your share?
>
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